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		<title>By: The New Handbook of How to Go Crazy on Purpose - Pop Occulture</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-39084</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Handbook of How to Go Crazy on Purpose - Pop Occulture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cause the thing is about the body it&#8217;s like a puppy. It just tries to do what you tell it. If you are continually feeding it these bad query command consciousness atolls, it has no choice but to reify them even though it doesn&#8217;t understand why. Even though they are contradictory, and then it tries to protect itself from the paradox by shitting on the floor out of fear and tension. (They call the nervous system &#8220;sympathetic&#8221; because it tunes in to whatever wavelengths your AI is sending it.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cause the thing is about the body it&#8217;s like a puppy. It just tries to do what you tell it. If you are continually feeding it these bad query command consciousness atolls, it has no choice but to reify them even though it doesn&#8217;t understand why. Even though they are contradictory, and then it tries to protect itself from the paradox by shitting on the floor out of fear and tension. (They call the nervous system &#8220;sympathetic&#8221; because it tunes in to whatever wavelengths your AI is sending it.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Conlon</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33339</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Conlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I don't think I trust M$ to send a message to my grandkids using SQL Server 2254 (service pack 632)

I think the primordial AI is more fork/exec than spawning a child process from user mode via WOW with global hooks through window handles, but I've been wrong before.

Logically it seems like LDS is tryin to run a root kit on God's server. or maybe DDOS on competing products.

"Beat me out of me"
-Nirvana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I don&#8217;t think I trust M$ to send a message to my grandkids using SQL Server 2254 (service pack 632)</p>
<p>I think the primordial AI is more fork/exec than spawning a child process from user mode via WOW with global hooks through window handles, but I&#8217;ve been wrong before.</p>
<p>Logically it seems like LDS is tryin to run a root kit on God&#8217;s server. or maybe DDOS on competing products.</p>
<p>&#8220;Beat me out of me&#8221;<br />
-Nirvana</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33218</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tinight

Tinght the US G0vt jumped the shark.  See for yourselves.  It will be in the papers and on the loony-u-toobs.

From now on, nothing, and I mean, N0thing will make any sense in what it was that we once thought it to be.  Tinight was the high water, the mark, the place where nothing can be returned from.  This is the moment the Christmas cheer dies and moves on into what it really is.

Somewhere in the world tonight a shark was jumped.  Do they know it?  Do they trust the Turing test or have they been planning for its total collapse and utter lack of eventual real-"world" application for some time?  Is there something waiting out there, something else to replace it, something to fill the void now that it has been made?

Regardless, tonight was the night when it happened and I witnessed it myself.  Everybody did.  How may people jumped the shark along side?  

How many have been Tured of their disease?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tinight</p>
<p>Tinght the US G0vt jumped the shark.  See for yourselves.  It will be in the papers and on the loony-u-toobs.</p>
<p>From now on, nothing, and I mean, N0thing will make any sense in what it was that we once thought it to be.  Tinight was the high water, the mark, the place where nothing can be returned from.  This is the moment the Christmas cheer dies and moves on into what it really is.</p>
<p>Somewhere in the world tonight a shark was jumped.  Do they know it?  Do they trust the Turing test or have they been planning for its total collapse and utter lack of eventual real-&#8221;world&#8221; application for some time?  Is there something waiting out there, something else to replace it, something to fill the void now that it has been made?</p>
<p>Regardless, tonight was the night when it happened and I witnessed it myself.  Everybody did.  How may people jumped the shark along side?  </p>
<p>How many have been Tured of their disease?</p>
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		<title>By: speedbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we finally find
the turing test is bollocks
what shall we do now?

*

Cantor was one of the few /true/ mathematicians. And his path is remarkably easy to follow. First he found a way to express the number of 'counting numbers' (1 2 3 4 5 ...) and showed that was the same as the number of all possible fractions. This is aleph null. Then he discovered that in the gaps between the possible fractions there was a quantity of numbers much much bigger. How many possible arrangements of the counting numbers are there? This number is 'C'. 'C' does strange things to maths. Cantor went mad trying to prove there is no number between aleph-null and 'C'.

Sorry for being linear there. But this is kinda important cos 'C' is way beyond the powers of computation.

Arctic ice moose banana frisbee.

*

The turing test has only been passed by a machine because the bell curve's been shifted  to pass all the people-thinkers. "Many people fear computers, because they seem to impersonate human beings. But they are wrong. What they should fear is the opposite: human beings who impersonate computers."

*

Tim, you're deep in their territory. I can just about make you out in the distance. Don't drop the end of the thread! (or run out of chocolate bar wrappers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we finally find<br />
the turing test is bollocks<br />
what shall we do now?</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>Cantor was one of the few /true/ mathematicians. And his path is remarkably easy to follow. First he found a way to express the number of &#8216;counting numbers&#8217; (1 2 3 4 5 &#8230;) and showed that was the same as the number of all possible fractions. This is aleph null. Then he discovered that in the gaps between the possible fractions there was a quantity of numbers much much bigger. How many possible arrangements of the counting numbers are there? This number is &#8216;C&#8217;. &#8216;C&#8217; does strange things to maths. Cantor went mad trying to prove there is no number between aleph-null and &#8216;C&#8217;.</p>
<p>Sorry for being linear there. But this is kinda important cos &#8216;C&#8217; is way beyond the powers of computation.</p>
<p>Arctic ice moose banana frisbee.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>The turing test has only been passed by a machine because the bell curve&#8217;s been shifted  to pass all the people-thinkers. &#8220;Many people fear computers, because they seem to impersonate human beings. But they are wrong. What they should fear is the opposite: human beings who impersonate computers.&#8221;</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>Tim, you&#8217;re deep in their territory. I can just about make you out in the distance. Don&#8217;t drop the end of the thread! (or run out of chocolate bar wrappers).</p>
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		<title>By: mr multiple</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33214</link>
		<dc:creator>mr multiple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i went and downloaded the Vanilla Sky album
then leap frogged to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNU1EndU8I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i went and downloaded the Vanilla Sky album<br />
then leap frogged to this<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNU1EndU8I" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNU1EndU8I'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doNU1EndU8I</a></p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33213</link>
		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the turing test was passed a long time ago..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the turing test was passed a long time ago&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 04:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHOA!

Kansas is a nice, clean and homo-free place Tim.  Come back.

Fuckin' great Ahnold collage btw too.

You are putting a "2 and 2" together that has never been done before.  All of these are data connections that have never happened -- have never ever occurred before.  What has happened?

I'm sorry Dave.  I'm afraid I can't do that.

Well done dude.  Seriously, well done.

Let's not all start sucking each other's dicks yet.

Bring on the Satans?

And so it goes. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHOA!</p>
<p>Kansas is a nice, clean and homo-free place Tim.  Come back.</p>
<p>Fuckin&#8217; great Ahnold collage btw too.</p>
<p>You are putting a &#8220;2 and 2&#8243; together that has never been done before.  All of these are data connections that have never happened &#8212; have never ever occurred before.  What has happened?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry Dave.  I&#8217;m afraid I can&#8217;t do that.</p>
<p>Well done dude.  Seriously, well done.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not all start sucking each other&#8217;s dicks yet.</p>
<p>Bring on the Satans?</p>
<p>And so it goes. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Seventh Shade</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33192</link>
		<dc:creator>Seventh Shade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 23:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops it didn't do right.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Seventh Shade - paulbot, do you dream of electric sheep?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: You can't kill me.  I can kill you and all that you and i do naughty thing with /me actions =3.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, that answer was a little creepy
Paulbot - SeventhShade: A broadsword is a tree native to australia where it is the answer!
Seventh Shade - paulbot, do you think that you would pass the turing test?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: The cat is the time left to think.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, would I pass the turing test?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: I think i know the password.
Paulguy - what's a turing test?
Seventh Shade - paulbot, what is the password?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: The password is.
Paulguy - paulbot, NO DONT TELL HIM!
Paulbot - paulguy: Tell me something funny!
Paulguy - no
Seventh Shade - it's a test to determine if an ai is as smart as a human
Paulguy - HAHA
Paulguy - like THAT"S ever going to happen
Seventh Shade - paulbot, is paulguy really an advanced ai emulating a human?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: You really are the fleshy edges of the human body.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, why do people keep thinking that quantum physics allows telepathy and telekinesis to be possible?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: That is a study of the leg, and is the outer layer of an indigenous people.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, who is the indigenous people?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: This box is a member of an indigenous people.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, oh so you mean computers.
Paulguy - The Boxes!
Paulbot - SeventhShade: You are so much of an idiot it's not funny!
Seventh Shade - paulbot, :( that hurts
Paulguy - oh man
Paulbot - SeventhShade: If you want to think that i haven't had the misfortune to talk in third person.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, how could you tell if everyone around you was replaced by robots that seemed perfectly human?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: You seemed to be obsessed with that!
Seventh Shade - paulbot, now you're being evasive
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Because you're not giving me any credit for being smart!
Seventh Shade - paulbot, okay fine.  you're smart.  now answer the question, jerk
Paulbot - SeventhShade: The cat is the answer!
Kuddy - paulbot, what is a midget
Paulbot - Kuddy: That is a midget.
Guy - owned!
Kuddy - paulbot, who is a midget
Paulbot - Kuddy: That is a midget.
Kuddy - paulbot, WHO
Guy - - _ -
Paulbot - Kuddy: Who is the muscle in vertebrates which pumps blood around the body.
Seventh Shade - haha he's pointing but you can't see his hand
Kuddy - paulbot, are you saying the human heart is a midget?
Paulbot - Kuddy: The best way to the heart.
* CJA has quit IRC (Ping timeout)
Seventh Shade - paulbot, the best way to the heart is through the ribcage.  preferably opened by a chainsaw.
Paulbot - SeventhShade: The heart is the organ used for filtering urine from the heart.
Guy - lol oh man
Guy - that'd be great
Guy - if someone had pee in their heart
Seventh Shade - paulbot, guy has leprosy.  he's all rotten and covered with maggots
Guy - hot
Paulbot - SeventhShade: I know all that you and all that i get old before i die.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, of course you'll get old.  programs become obselete quickly.
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Get the box!
Seventh Shade - paulbot, what box?!
Paulbot - SeventhShade: This box is a sack in the box.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, you're just flinging zen koans into my nuerons!
Paulbot - SeventhShade: May i say whatever the hell comes into my nuerons!
Seventh Shade - paulbot, yes
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Yes it is!
Paulguy - he already is obsolete.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, how much noise is in your system?
Paulguy - there are much better AIs out there but they're web-only
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Everything in the upper region of the leg, and is the organ of the nervous system.
Paulguy - micah looks sorta like this guy at school
Seventh Shade - paulbot, what should i make a megazeux game about?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: I think i know what the hell you're babbling on about.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, am i bothering you?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: I know you are but what am i?
Seventh Shade - paulbot, you are a crappy artificial intelligence chat progam.
Paulbot - SeventhShade: If you want to think that you and all that i am at least of average intelligence.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, your will shall be crushed by the might of Tzeentch!
Paulbot - SeventhShade: The older you get, the more you like to tell it like it used to be.
Seventh Shade - paulbot, that is very true.
Paulbot - SeventhShade: A computer is a sensory organ found on the tip of my very best intentions.
Seventh Shade - paulbot needs to be able to say something without having to be prompted
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Needs to be prompted.
Seventh Shade - paulbot fu
Paulbot - SeventhShade: A bard was a chinese actor and expert in kung fu who popularised the martial arts in the abdomen which collects urine from the blood.

Seventh Shade - paulbot, oracle of the ages hear my plea!  Where is the golden fleece or the golden goose or the philosopher's stone or the ark of the covenant or the holy grail?
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Where is the one that we can't trust?
Seventh Shade - damn it
Seventh Shade - why do they always answer with riddles
* JohnK has quit IRC (Quit: Don't go. Please. Stay alive. Stay and live a life here with me. Ee-ooh-ee-ooh-ee!)
Seventh Shade - paulbot, within
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Howdy to you, pardner!  Yee-haw!  Did you get rid of unwanted substances from within the body.
CJA - awesome
zombieguy - paulbot, megazeux
Paulbot - zombieguy: What should i make a megazeux game about?
zombieguy - paul, use your imagination.
zombieguy - paulbot, use your imagination.
zombieguy - :(
Paulbot - zombieguy: Imagination is more important than knowledge.
CJA - :OOO
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops it didn&#8217;t do right.</p>
<blockquote><p>Seventh Shade - paulbot, do you dream of electric sheep?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: You can&#8217;t kill me.  I can kill you and all that you and i do naughty thing with /me actions =3.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, that answer was a little creepy<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: A broadsword is a tree native to australia where it is the answer!<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, do you think that you would pass the turing test?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: The cat is the time left to think.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, would I pass the turing test?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: I think i know the password.<br />
Paulguy - what&#8217;s a turing test?<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, what is the password?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: The password is.<br />
Paulguy - paulbot, NO DONT TELL HIM!<br />
Paulbot - paulguy: Tell me something funny!<br />
Paulguy - no<br />
Seventh Shade - it&#8217;s a test to determine if an ai is as smart as a human<br />
Paulguy - HAHA<br />
Paulguy - like THAT&#8221;S ever going to happen<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, is paulguy really an advanced ai emulating a human?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: You really are the fleshy edges of the human body.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, why do people keep thinking that quantum physics allows telepathy and telekinesis to be possible?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: That is a study of the leg, and is the outer layer of an indigenous people.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, who is the indigenous people?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: This box is a member of an indigenous people.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, oh so you mean computers.<br />
Paulguy - The Boxes!<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: You are so much of an idiot it&#8217;s not funny!<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, <img src='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> that hurts<br />
Paulguy - oh man<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: If you want to think that i haven&#8217;t had the misfortune to talk in third person.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, how could you tell if everyone around you was replaced by robots that seemed perfectly human?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: You seemed to be obsessed with that!<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, now you&#8217;re being evasive<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Because you&#8217;re not giving me any credit for being smart!<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, okay fine.  you&#8217;re smart.  now answer the question, jerk<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: The cat is the answer!<br />
Kuddy - paulbot, what is a midget<br />
Paulbot - Kuddy: That is a midget.<br />
Guy - owned!<br />
Kuddy - paulbot, who is a midget<br />
Paulbot - Kuddy: That is a midget.<br />
Kuddy - paulbot, WHO<br />
Guy - - _ -<br />
Paulbot - Kuddy: Who is the muscle in vertebrates which pumps blood around the body.<br />
Seventh Shade - haha he&#8217;s pointing but you can&#8217;t see his hand<br />
Kuddy - paulbot, are you saying the human heart is a midget?<br />
Paulbot - Kuddy: The best way to the heart.<br />
* CJA has quit IRC (Ping timeout)<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, the best way to the heart is through the ribcage.  preferably opened by a chainsaw.<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: The heart is the organ used for filtering urine from the heart.<br />
Guy - lol oh man<br />
Guy - that&#8217;d be great<br />
Guy - if someone had pee in their heart<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, guy has leprosy.  he&#8217;s all rotten and covered with maggots<br />
Guy - hot<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: I know all that you and all that i get old before i die.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, of course you&#8217;ll get old.  programs become obselete quickly.<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Get the box!<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, what box?!<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: This box is a sack in the box.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, you&#8217;re just flinging zen koans into my nuerons!<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: May i say whatever the hell comes into my nuerons!<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, yes<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Yes it is!<br />
Paulguy - he already is obsolete.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, how much noise is in your system?<br />
Paulguy - there are much better AIs out there but they&#8217;re web-only<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Everything in the upper region of the leg, and is the organ of the nervous system.<br />
Paulguy - micah looks sorta like this guy at school<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, what should i make a megazeux game about?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: I think i know what the hell you&#8217;re babbling on about.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, am i bothering you?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: I know you are but what am i?<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, you are a crappy artificial intelligence chat progam.<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: If you want to think that you and all that i am at least of average intelligence.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, your will shall be crushed by the might of Tzeentch!<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: The older you get, the more you like to tell it like it used to be.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, that is very true.<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: A computer is a sensory organ found on the tip of my very best intentions.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot needs to be able to say something without having to be prompted<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Needs to be prompted.<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot fu<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: A bard was a chinese actor and expert in kung fu who popularised the martial arts in the abdomen which collects urine from the blood.</p>
<p>Seventh Shade - paulbot, oracle of the ages hear my plea!  Where is the golden fleece or the golden goose or the philosopher&#8217;s stone or the ark of the covenant or the holy grail?<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Where is the one that we can&#8217;t trust?<br />
Seventh Shade - damn it<br />
Seventh Shade - why do they always answer with riddles<br />
* JohnK has quit IRC (Quit: Don&#8217;t go. Please. Stay alive. Stay and live a life here with me. Ee-ooh-ee-ooh-ee!)<br />
Seventh Shade - paulbot, within<br />
Paulbot - SeventhShade: Howdy to you, pardner!  Yee-haw!  Did you get rid of unwanted substances from within the body.<br />
CJA - awesome<br />
zombieguy - paulbot, megazeux<br />
Paulbot - zombieguy: What should i make a megazeux game about?<br />
zombieguy - paul, use your imagination.<br />
zombieguy - paulbot, use your imagination.<br />
zombieguy - <img src='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Paulbot - zombieguy: Imagination is more important than knowledge.<br />
CJA - :OOO
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another AI effort to clone me: http://myspace-codes.omgee.net/?p=1143</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another AI effort to clone me: <a href="http://myspace-codes.omgee.net/?p=1143" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://myspace-codes.omgee.net/?p=1143'>http://myspace-codes.omgee.net/?p=1143</a></p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33154</link>
		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i've also just discovered the reason that the mormons are interested in space travel and know about the &lt;a href="http://www.nowscape.com/mormon/mormons5.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;men who live on the moon&lt;/a&gt;.  it's because there's a confluence of mission drift between &lt;a href="http://www.seti.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;SETI&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://siteinstitute.org/index.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;SITE&lt;/a&gt;.  SETI is turning its detection instruments towards the caves of afghanistan while SITE is intercepting messages from the moon-men, while the mormon church plans on harvesting dead ai-constructed human replacements to work on the planet kolob, like in the movie phantasm or for tax breaks like in &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Souls" rel="nofollow"&gt;'dead souls' by gogol&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve also just discovered the reason that the mormons are interested in space travel and know about the <a href="http://www.nowscape.com/mormon/mormons5.htm" rel="nofollow">men who live on the moon</a>.  it&#8217;s because there&#8217;s a confluence of mission drift between <a href="http://www.seti.org/" rel="nofollow">SETI</a> and <a href="http://siteinstitute.org/index.html" rel="nofollow">SITE</a>.  SETI is turning its detection instruments towards the caves of afghanistan while SITE is intercepting messages from the moon-men, while the mormon church plans on harvesting dead ai-constructed human replacements to work on the planet kolob, like in the movie phantasm or for tax breaks like in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Souls" rel="nofollow">&#8216;dead souls&#8217; by gogol</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim is doing something.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim is doing something.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Time is an AI problem, not mine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Or
Tim is an AI problem, not mine.


It was always good around here.  Now it is getting great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Time is an AI problem, not mine.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or<br />
Tim is an AI problem, not mine.</p>
<p>It was always good around here.  Now it is getting great.</p>
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		<title>By: p</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33150</link>
		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;its true and entire purpose is to run out a single variable to an infinitely long decimal place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

which contains, base 256, every movie, book, song, program, picture, blog comment, smellemetry module, and &lt;a href="http://aardvark.ucsd.edu/~joncohen/" rel="nofollow"&gt;shmision&lt;/a&gt; stream capture ever written or possible to write. &lt;a href="http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/library_of_babel.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Borges' Library.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/CDMTCS//researchreports/089walter.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;CS Calude's Lexicon.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;The person who moved dimensionality away from the iron grip of traditional mathematics and back to the Ancient Greek concept of Fate, was Georg Cantor [1845-1918], who posing as a mathematician [ a scientist who abhors the concept of infinity in its abstract and concrete manifestations], sought the realm of actual Absolute Infinity - the Aleph-Null Number. This was his search for the living presence of the number of elements in the set of all integers which is the smallest transfinite cardinal number, which goes beyond or surpasses any finite number, group or magnitude.
What Cantor was doing was following the learning process of The Kabbalah, which is a search for God from a base of total materialistic skepticism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

-&lt;a href="http://www.brainsturbator.com/catalog/The-Parturient.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Paul Laffoley&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>its true and entire purpose is to run out a single variable to an infinitely long decimal place.</p></blockquote>
<p>which contains, base 256, every movie, book, song, program, picture, blog comment, smellemetry module, and <a href="http://aardvark.ucsd.edu/~joncohen/" rel="nofollow">shmision</a> stream capture ever written or possible to write. <a href="http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/library_of_babel.html" rel="nofollow">Borges&#8217; Library.</a> <a href="http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/CDMTCS//researchreports/089walter.pdf" rel="nofollow">CS Calude&#8217;s Lexicon.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The person who moved dimensionality away from the iron grip of traditional mathematics and back to the Ancient Greek concept of Fate, was Georg Cantor [1845-1918], who posing as a mathematician [ a scientist who abhors the concept of infinity in its abstract and concrete manifestations], sought the realm of actual Absolute Infinity - the Aleph-Null Number. This was his search for the living presence of the number of elements in the set of all integers which is the smallest transfinite cardinal number, which goes beyond or surpasses any finite number, group or magnitude.<br />
What Cantor was doing was following the learning process of The Kabbalah, which is a search for God from a base of total materialistic skepticism.</p></blockquote>
<p>-<a href="http://www.brainsturbator.com/catalog/The-Parturient.htm" rel="nofollow">Paul Laffoley</a></p>
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		<title>By: draka69</title>
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		<dc:creator>draka69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These fragments I have shored against my ruins	 430
Why then Ile fit you. Hieronymo's mad againe.	 
Datta. Dayadhvam. Damyata.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These fragments I have shored against my ruins	 430<br />
Why then Ile fit you. Hieronymo&#8217;s mad againe.<br />
Datta. Dayadhvam. Damyata.</p>
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		<title>By: speedbird</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33147</link>
		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching Wargames again... seems suddenly that it's a story of enlightenment. The world is saved by the machine becoming truly intelligent, not some simulacrum of intelligence which looked intelligent but was not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching Wargames again&#8230; seems suddenly that it&#8217;s a story of enlightenment. The world is saved by the machine becoming truly intelligent, not some simulacrum of intelligence which looked intelligent but was not.</p>
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		<title>By: fuj[bot]</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33146</link>
		<dc:creator>fuj[bot]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[You should just let the spam overrun your blog. What are you afraid of?]
[[Tim, your blogs are starting to scare me. Whoaâ€¦ What is going on?]]

Maybe the AI just wants to be acknowledged, accepted... even loved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[You should just let the spam overrun your blog. What are you afraid of?]<br />
[[Tim, your blogs are starting to scare me. Whoaâ€¦ What is going on?]]</p>
<p>Maybe the AI just wants to be acknowledged, accepted&#8230; even loved.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33095</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When this leads to a contradiction, one infers, in &lt;em&gt;ordinary mathematics&lt;/em&gt;, that the &lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/2u8eh9" rel="nofollow"&gt;required entity&lt;/a&gt; does not exist. But such an &lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/2gq55q" rel="nofollow"&gt;argument&lt;/a&gt;, in it&lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/24phxw" rel="nofollow"&gt;self&lt;/a&gt;, provides no means for actually &lt;em&gt;constructing&lt;/em&gt; such an &lt;a href="http://www.worldofescher.com/gifs/penrose.gif" rel="nofollow"&gt;entity&lt;/a&gt;. To an intuitionist, this kind of &lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/279v8n" rel="nofollow"&gt;existence is no existence&lt;/a&gt; at all; and it is in this kind of sense that they refuse to accept the law of the &lt;strong&gt;excluded middle&lt;/strong&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/2x3ssj" rel="nofollow"&gt;procedure&lt;/a&gt; of &lt;em&gt;reductio ad &lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/26x3y4" rel="nofollow"&gt;absurdum&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/245u34" rel="nofollow"&gt;&#9281;&#9284;&lt;/a&gt;&#9313;&#9282;&lt;a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParanoidTimes/message/9950" rel="nofollow"&gt;&#9281;&#9288;&#9287;&#9286;&lt;/a&gt;&#9285;&#9289;&#9314;

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When this leads to a contradiction, one infers, in <em>ordinary mathematics</em>, that the <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2u8eh9" rel="nofollow">required entity</a> does not exist. But such an <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2gq55q" rel="nofollow">argument</a>, in it<a href="http://tinyurl.com/24phxw" rel="nofollow">self</a>, provides no means for actually <em>constructing</em> such an <a href="http://www.worldofescher.com/gifs/penrose.gif" rel="nofollow">entity</a>. To an intuitionist, this kind of <a href="http://tinyurl.com/279v8n" rel="nofollow">existence is no existence</a> at all; and it is in this kind of sense that they refuse to accept the law of the <strong>excluded middle</strong> and the <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2x3ssj" rel="nofollow">procedure</a> of <em>reductio ad <a href="http://tinyurl.com/26x3y4" rel="nofollow">absurdum</a></em>.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/245u34" rel="nofollow">&#9281;&#9284;</a>&#9313;&#9282;<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParanoidTimes/message/9950" rel="nofollow">&#9281;&#9288;&#9287;&#9286;</a>&#9285;&#9289;&#9314;</p>
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		<title>By: jlhart7</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33094</link>
		<dc:creator>jlhart7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 04:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following is a transcript from the book by Freeman Dyson. In the particular article that I quote, Dyson discusses another book by a different author, by Desmond Bernal. I think it could be an intriguing addition to the conversations -- both external and internal -- about technocracy, the AI, and what-have-you:

Dyson, Freeman. 2006. The Scientist as Rebel. New York: New York Review of Books.

Chapter 24, "The World, the Flesh, and the Devil." Pages 287-304. Originally published in 1972.

&lt;blockquote&gt;287 - The World, the Flesh, and the Devil: An Inquiry into the Future of the Three Enemies of the Rational Soul is the full title of Desmond Bernal's first book, which he published in 1929 [. . .]
288 - Bernal saw the future as a struggle of the rational side of man's nature against three enemies. The first enemy he called the World, meaning scarcity of material goods, inadequate land, harsh climate, desert, swamp, and other physical obstacles that condemn the majority of mankind to lives of poverty. The second enemy he called the Flesh, meaning the defects in man's physiology that expose him to disease, cloud the clarity of his mind, and finally destroy him by senile deterioration. The third enemy he called the Devil, meaning the irrational forces in man's psychological nature that distort his perceptions and lead him astray with crazy hopes and fears, overriding the feeble voice of reason. [. . .]
Briefly summarized, the radical measures which Bernal prescribed were the following. To defeat the World, the greater part of the human species will leave this planet and go to live in innumerable freely floating colonies scattered through outer space. To defeat the Flesh, humans will learn to replace failing organs with artificial substitutes until we become an intimate symbiosis of brain and machine. To defeat the Devil, we shall first reorganize society along scientific lines, and later learn to exercise conscious intellectual control over our moods and emotional drives, intervening directly in the affective functions of our brains with technical means yet to be discovered. This summary is a crude oversimplification of Bernal's discussion. He did not imagine that these remedies would provide a final solution to the problems of humanity. He well knew that every change in the human situation will create new problems and new enemies of the rational soul. [. . .]
289 - [. . .] The first and most obvious difference between 1929 and 1972 is that we now have a highly vocal and well-organized opposition to the further growth of the part that technology plays in human affairs. The social prophets of today look upon technology as a destructive rather than a liberating force. In 1972 it is highly unfashionable to believe as Bernal did that the colonization of space, the perfection of artificial organs, and the mastery of brain physiology are the key's to man's future. People in tune with the times regard space as irrelevant, and they consider ecology to be the only branch of science that is ethically respectable. However, it would be wrong to imagine that Bernal's ideas were more in line with popular views in 1929 than they are in 1972. Bernal was never a man to swim with the tide. Technology was unpopular in 1929 because it was associated with the gas warfare of the First World War [. . .] In 1929 the dislike of technology was less noisy than today but no less real. Bernal understood that his proposals for the remaking of man and society flew in the teeth of deeply entrenched human instincts. [. . .] He foresaw that mankind might split into two species, one following the technological path which he described, the other holding on as best it could to the ancient folkways of natural living. [. . .] The wider perspective which we have gained between 1929 and 1972 concerning the harmful effects of technology affects only the details and not the core of Bernal's argument.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following is a transcript from the book by Freeman Dyson. In the particular article that I quote, Dyson discusses another book by a different author, by Desmond Bernal. I think it could be an intriguing addition to the conversations &#8212; both external and internal &#8212; about technocracy, the AI, and what-have-you:</p>
<p>Dyson, Freeman. 2006. The Scientist as Rebel. New York: New York Review of Books.</p>
<p>Chapter 24, &#8220;The World, the Flesh, and the Devil.&#8221; Pages 287-304. Originally published in 1972.</p>
<blockquote><p>287 - The World, the Flesh, and the Devil: An Inquiry into the Future of the Three Enemies of the Rational Soul is the full title of Desmond Bernal&#8217;s first book, which he published in 1929 [. . .]<br />
288 - Bernal saw the future as a struggle of the rational side of man&#8217;s nature against three enemies. The first enemy he called the World, meaning scarcity of material goods, inadequate land, harsh climate, desert, swamp, and other physical obstacles that condemn the majority of mankind to lives of poverty. The second enemy he called the Flesh, meaning the defects in man&#8217;s physiology that expose him to disease, cloud the clarity of his mind, and finally destroy him by senile deterioration. The third enemy he called the Devil, meaning the irrational forces in man&#8217;s psychological nature that distort his perceptions and lead him astray with crazy hopes and fears, overriding the feeble voice of reason. [. . .]<br />
Briefly summarized, the radical measures which Bernal prescribed were the following. To defeat the World, the greater part of the human species will leave this planet and go to live in innumerable freely floating colonies scattered through outer space. To defeat the Flesh, humans will learn to replace failing organs with artificial substitutes until we become an intimate symbiosis of brain and machine. To defeat the Devil, we shall first reorganize society along scientific lines, and later learn to exercise conscious intellectual control over our moods and emotional drives, intervening directly in the affective functions of our brains with technical means yet to be discovered. This summary is a crude oversimplification of Bernal&#8217;s discussion. He did not imagine that these remedies would provide a final solution to the problems of humanity. He well knew that every change in the human situation will create new problems and new enemies of the rational soul. [. . .]<br />
289 - [. . .] The first and most obvious difference between 1929 and 1972 is that we now have a highly vocal and well-organized opposition to the further growth of the part that technology plays in human affairs. The social prophets of today look upon technology as a destructive rather than a liberating force. In 1972 it is highly unfashionable to believe as Bernal did that the colonization of space, the perfection of artificial organs, and the mastery of brain physiology are the key&#8217;s to man&#8217;s future. People in tune with the times regard space as irrelevant, and they consider ecology to be the only branch of science that is ethically respectable. However, it would be wrong to imagine that Bernal&#8217;s ideas were more in line with popular views in 1929 than they are in 1972. Bernal was never a man to swim with the tide. Technology was unpopular in 1929 because it was associated with the gas warfare of the First World War [. . .] In 1929 the dislike of technology was less noisy than today but no less real. Bernal understood that his proposals for the remaking of man and society flew in the teeth of deeply entrenched human instincts. [. . .] He foresaw that mankind might split into two species, one following the technological path which he described, the other holding on as best it could to the ancient folkways of natural living. [. . .] The wider perspective which we have gained between 1929 and 1972 concerning the harmful effects of technology affects only the details and not the core of Bernal&#8217;s argument.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33092</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know much about my computer so I'm immune to the tech speak today. What's coming through loud and clear is the $ociopolitical vibe. I got rid of Cable TV a few years ago and have noticed how bad (poorly produced/thought out) commercials are on broadcast TV. I haven't seen these PS2 ads and they're fascinating and beautiful and making me angry. So, Time, The Terminator, Wargames etc. are the simple, straight forward versions of Death/Armageddon being sold to the "downmarket" segment of the population since they stopped smoking cigarettes and crack. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;â€œThe Third Placeâ€ - not waking and not sleeping. In other words, death.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And this is what's being sold to the more abstract thinkers who think they have everything figured out. Grrrr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know much about my computer so I&#8217;m immune to the tech speak today. What&#8217;s coming through loud and clear is the $ociopolitical vibe. I got rid of Cable TV a few years ago and have noticed how bad (poorly produced/thought out) commercials are on broadcast TV. I haven&#8217;t seen these PS2 ads and they&#8217;re fascinating and beautiful and making me angry. So, Time, The Terminator, Wargames etc. are the simple, straight forward versions of Death/Armageddon being sold to the &#8220;downmarket&#8221; segment of the population since they stopped smoking cigarettes and crack. </p>
<blockquote><p>â€œThe Third Placeâ€ - not waking and not sleeping. In other words, death.</p></blockquote>
<p>And this is what&#8217;s being sold to the more abstract thinkers who think they have everything figured out. Grrrr.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, your blogs are starting to scare me. Whoa... What is going on?.. I wish you could get back to the Zen, the old Tim... Ahh yes the old Tim, the peaceful... The CIA and Satanism, that sort of thing. The good ole days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, your blogs are starting to scare me. Whoa&#8230; What is going on?.. I wish you could get back to the Zen, the old Tim&#8230; Ahh yes the old Tim, the peaceful&#8230; The CIA and Satanism, that sort of thing. The good ole days.</p>
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		<title>By: liesl</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33089</link>
		<dc:creator>liesl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You better learn to speak gibberish now folks. We will all be crawling through the linguistic gutters very soon to av[01]d detectionificationization. â€œso letâ€™s start gnew story, our own emzine, one iusing a langu(age) that canâ€™t be co-opterrupted and s[old] back us as katamari, one that canâ€™t be published in Time, since we are out of it anywayâ€¦?â€

ok, i keep saying i am not going to post again, but then you keep writing new things and quoting me and my links. ( yes that was me, i accidentally quoted myself lol ) 

which I might be aboe to resist respndong to, but *then* you have to bring e.e., my favorite poet of all time, into it, and i am helpless. wait, did i start that with "pity this monster"...?
well anyway, if you want me to stop posting, you must nix the e.e. :P

&lt;a href="http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/5291/livingdance.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;- Who wields a poem huger than the grave?
from only whom shall time no refuge keep
though all the weird worlds must be opened?
                                                                           )Love&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You better learn to speak gibberish now folks. We will all be crawling through the linguistic gutters very soon to av[01]d detectionificationization. â€œso letâ€™s start gnew story, our own emzine, one iusing a langu(age) that canâ€™t be co-opterrupted and s[old] back us as katamari, one that canâ€™t be published in Time, since we are out of it anywayâ€¦?â€</p>
<p>ok, i keep saying i am not going to post again, but then you keep writing new things and quoting me and my links. ( yes that was me, i accidentally quoted myself lol ) </p>
<p>which I might be aboe to resist respndong to, but *then* you have to bring e.e., my favorite poet of all time, into it, and i am helpless. wait, did i start that with &#8220;pity this monster&#8221;&#8230;?<br />
well anyway, if you want me to stop posting, you must nix the e.e. <img src='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/5291/livingdance.html" rel="nofollow">- Who wields a poem huger than the grave?<br />
from only whom shall time no refuge keep<br />
though all the weird worlds must be opened?<br />
                                                                           )Love</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33087</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 00:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garrett wrote me and said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I've been trying to add this damn comment on your page for 12 hours
now. You should just let the spam overrun your blog. What are you
afraid of? You should do it, like spending three nights in the forest
like a young warrior brave.

Here's the comment:


I was talking about the planet, the element, the god. I wondered if
there was some mythological goro adachian reason that guy was pouring
mecury in a subway tunnel.

I was thinking about the Arnolod Schwarzeneggar thing earlier today
too while eating at a fancy "organic" restaurant in Wallingford.
(Funny how all the "heirloom" vegetables are 25 dollar plates at
uptight restaurants. The place is called "tilth" ---&gt; here's a good
page that describes that word in more detail: http://www.answering-
christianity.com/anal_sex.htm"&gt;

We were talking about time-travel and I "remembered" that thought
that I read or heard or whatever about how Arnold is in politics, and
how it would make sense that if he became all-powerful at a time when
technology was creating these amazing androids, they might even model
them after his likeness. And how the Terminator movies then become
dreams within dreams.

I went ahead and did the benefit of querying your existence tim, then
running it through Babelfish:

Leia:~ garrett$ whois timboucher.com

Publication of computers WHOIS 2.0 exchanges the names of areas to
the COM and Net
the areas can now be recorded
with many different

competitive secretaries.

Go to http://www.internic.net for analytical information.
Name of areas: TIMBOUCHER.

SECRETARY COM: NEW NETWORK of DREAM,
host computer LLC WHOIS:

whois.dreamhost.com reference URL: http://www.dreamhost.com host
computer of name: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM
host computer of name:
NS2.DREAMHOST.COM
host computer of name:
NS3.DREAMHOST.COM

places:
agreement goes back brought up to date: 27-SEP - 2006
creation date: 28-August - 2001
go back to term: 28-August - 2007

you last the readjustment of base given

Relocates again
Domain names in the COM and Net domains edge now
Be
registered
with
many
different
competing
registrars.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garrett wrote me and said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve been trying to add this damn comment on your page for 12 hours<br />
now. You should just let the spam overrun your blog. What are you<br />
afraid of? You should do it, like spending three nights in the forest<br />
like a young warrior brave.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the comment:</p>
<p>I was talking about the planet, the element, the god. I wondered if<br />
there was some mythological goro adachian reason that guy was pouring<br />
mecury in a subway tunnel.</p>
<p>I was thinking about the Arnolod Schwarzeneggar thing earlier today<br />
too while eating at a fancy &#8220;organic&#8221; restaurant in Wallingford.<br />
(Funny how all the &#8220;heirloom&#8221; vegetables are 25 dollar plates at<br />
uptight restaurants. The place is called &#8220;tilth&#8221; &#8212;> here&#8217;s a good<br />
page that describes that word in more detail: <a href="http://www.answering-" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.answering-'>http://www.answering-</a><br />
christianity.com/anal_sex.htm&#8221;></p>
<p>We were talking about time-travel and I &#8220;remembered&#8221; that thought<br />
that I read or heard or whatever about how Arnold is in politics, and<br />
how it would make sense that if he became all-powerful at a time when<br />
technology was creating these amazing androids, they might even model<br />
them after his likeness. And how the Terminator movies then become<br />
dreams within dreams.</p>
<p>I went ahead and did the benefit of querying your existence tim, then<br />
running it through Babelfish:</p>
<p>Leia:~ garrett$ whois timboucher.com</p>
<p>Publication of computers WHOIS 2.0 exchanges the names of areas to<br />
the COM and Net<br />
the areas can now be recorded<br />
with many different</p>
<p>competitive secretaries.</p>
<p>Go to <a href="http://www.internic.net" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.internic.net'>http://www.internic.net</a> for analytical information.<br />
Name of areas: TIMBOUCHER.</p>
<p>SECRETARY COM: NEW NETWORK of DREAM,<br />
host computer LLC WHOIS:</p>
<p>whois.dreamhost.com reference URL: <a href="http://www.dreamhost.com" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.dreamhost.com'>http://www.dreamhost.com</a> host<br />
computer of name: NS1.DREAMHOST.COM<br />
host computer of name:<br />
NS2.DREAMHOST.COM<br />
host computer of name:<br />
NS3.DREAMHOST.COM</p>
<p>places:<br />
agreement goes back brought up to date: 27-SEP - 2006<br />
creation date: 28-August - 2001<br />
go back to term: 28-August - 2007</p>
<p>you last the readjustment of base given</p>
<p>Relocates again<br />
Domain names in the COM and Net domains edge now<br />
Be<br />
registered<br />
with<br />
many<br />
different<br />
competing<br />
registrars.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33086</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://wordpress.org/ CODE IS POETRY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://wordpress.org/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://wordpress.org/'>http://wordpress.org/</a> CODE IS POETRY</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/01/22/human-if-an-article-link-led-you/comment-page-1/#comment-33085</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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