“female priestesses facilitated rituals of initiation, with music, dance and meditation, in rooms adorned with breasts and bulls’ heads and horns. Gimbutas has pointed out that the shape of the bull’s head is exactly the same anatomically as a woman’s uterus and fallopian tubes and that the ancient women clearly knew this.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Germany_T%C3%BCbingen_Joker.jpg

Also see Puck aka Robin Goodfellow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_%28Shakespeare%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puck_%28mythology%29

(Interesting that in Midsummer Night’s Dream Puck is distinguished from Oberon, King of the Fairies who commands him)

And not least of all. I think this guy has a dose of green man in him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_the_Frog

And this is just too weird for words

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HrnsdNGgUk

Maybe it’s all one.

http://www.desktop.demon.co.uk/punch/punch.gif

The left and right hands seem to fight but they are cooperating.

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~gunderso/..._photos/other_pieces/mobius_strip.jpg

There is only one side on the Mobius strip.

http://www.duepassinelmistero.com/due-nature1.jpg

Like in Invisibles: all the secret agents are really double agents, and doubles are triples.. in general an x-agent is secretly an (x+1) agent… (I don’t wanna speculate on the transfinite-ordinaled agents!) in fact the whole enemy army is made up of OUR guys who have bravely suffered to have their memories wiped and be re-programmed so as to carry the plan to fruition… believe you me, you wouldn’t want to have had to endure the training necessary to produce a GWB… let alone one of the ‘psycho killers’ (so-styled)… these guys are doing the hard work of the immortals (who haven’t got hands) just like you, and don’t you forget it! besides, it won’t be long now, the day of Apocalypse is at hand, when the trigger-words get broadcasted on every channel and stamped on banana stickers, and then everyone wakes up from their programming to find that the Temple has been built by all of us, while we were sleeping.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolly_Green_Giant

Doesn’t the eel get her pregnant? Maybe I’m thinking of another story….

Yeah that rings a bell too. I’m 65% certain that is the way Joseph Campbell tells it.

And concerning the Scarlet Woman, I think that in The Master and Margarita, Margarita plays that role.

So - the Lady. Well if the Knight is Yang, then the Lady would be Yin:

Maid Marion
The Lady of the Lake
Mary Magdalene

…and so on…Though of course not those specific people. Well it could be; but the Lady isn’t a specific person…well not necessarily anyway.

The Stag is very interesting as well. The Stag could also be seen as the Serpent (or perhaps even the Tree) - though the Serpent isn’t very welcome and entirely mis-understood - the poor blighter. So the new guise probably did him a good turn. Then there is the whole deal with the horns; which are also shared by the goat, Pan, devils and even on occasion Satan himself. Horns aren’t really evil themselves it should be noted, more like a manifestation of the Shadow (Shadow can on occasion be a neat little guy, but most often is quite a bit of a bastard. I actually met him once – he wasn’t all that happy, although for some reason he had this awful grin). Anyway, the Stag has pretty much got Shadow on a nice little role; his antlers (horns) clearly reflect that fact

So the Knight, the Lady, and the Stag (and his Shadow) pretty much bring us full circle back to the King.

Least that is how I am seeing it…

Also in France orgasm is called la petit mort, the little death.

I meant to bring that up in the Kali thing, thanks!

One day, while she was bathing and that same pond, the eel assaulted her.

Doesn’t the eel get her pregnant? Maybe I’m thinking of another story….

I have another round I want to do on the Green Man’s counterpart: the Lady in Red Whore of Babylon Scarlet Letter Maid Marian Magdalene Little Red Riding Hood Scarlet Woman etc. Any other links and preparatory materials on that would be super!

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/s/sina.html

Sina
The Samoan name of the moon-goddess, known in Polynesia as Ina. She kept an eel in a jar, but when it grew as long as a man she let it swim free in a pond. One day, while she was bathing and that same pond, the eel assaulted her. She cried out for help and was saved by the people of Upolo, who sentenced the eel-man to death. Before dying, the eel-man (who was the god Tuna) asked Sina to bury his head in the sand on the seashore. She followed his request and after some time the first coconut palm came out; a gift from the gods.

Also in France orgasm is called la petit mort, the little death.

Silent [K]night

So ok - that is clear enough. I have suspicions on just who the Lady is…but I will keep quiet on that…

This heap o’ pictures technique… makes me think of a thing we used to do in History at school… we’d spend a lesson just looking at a heap of images from a particular period (repro, obviously), and discussing ’so what’s that all about, then?’. None of us could do it at age 15 but with hindsight it seems important. Crazy guy was trying to get us to think in a different way.

“Love ought not to make requests,” she said, “but shouldn’t make demands, either. Love must have the strength to reach certainty for itself. Then it no longer undergoes the power of attraction, but exerts it. Sinclair, your love is being attracted by me. Whenever it begins to attract me, I shall come. I don’t want to make a gift of myself, I want to be won.”

But another time she told me another tale. It was about a man who loved without hope. He withdrew completely inside himself, and thought he would burn up with love. He lost contact with the world; he no longer saw the blue sky and the green forest; the brook didn’t murmur for him, the harp didn’t sound for him; everything had gone under and he had become poor and miserable. But his love grew, and he was much readier to die and wither away than to renounce the possession of the beautiful woman he loved. Then he noticed that his love had burnt up everything else in him; it became powerul and exerted more and more attraction; and the beautiful woman was compelled to follow; she came, he stoof there with outstretched arms to draw her to himself. But when she stood before him, she was totally transformed, and with trembling he felt and saw that he had attracted to himself the entire world he had lost. It stood before him and yielded itself to him; sky and forest and brook, everything came to meet him in new colors, vivid and splendid; it belonged to him, it spoke his language. And instead of merely winning a woman, he had the whole world on his bosom, and every star in the sky shone within him and sparkled joy into his soul. He had loved and by doing so, had found himself. But most people love in order to lose themselves.

Well find me some pictures!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVwGcnaP9Ns&mode=related&search=

The scene is at 7:36-7:37. When I saw the movie it seemed a lot longer because I had a dream about the scene many years ago but had forgotten it. God only knows why but before the X-Men movie came out I dreamed scenes from the careers of a number of the actors in the movie.

This clip is the ending and I was expecting The Queen to ask if I would free Spain?. Does anybody remember if that scene is earlier in the movie? I was really moved and sat in the theater trying to find my Spain and begin my Quest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan

Same damn thing as Robin Hood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Of_Sherwood

one of the premises is the triumph of patriarchy, even pagan patriarchy, over older, matriarchal forces. I thought of this when I saw your pictures of Cernunos, et al. One of the characters mentions that Cernunos was a male imitator of Diana and Artemis’ wild hunt

I never read the book so I can’t really comment on that. But whatever it is I’m talking about has really nothing to do with matriarchy or patriarchy. It’s all about the sunmoonunion thingy. It’s alchemical not social.

No Green Man from “The Fountain”?

Well find me some pictures!

Have you seen Pan’s Labyrinth? I think you’ll find in it a lot of similarities to what you’re exploring (and a lotta differences but you know).

Oh and check out the Viking Youth podcast. Here are two recent shows they did on David Lynch and Inland Empire. And they wear horned viking helmets too.

http://www.thefeedlot.org/vikingyouth/...how_show.php?show=83&x=6&y=19
http://www.thefeedlot.org/vikingyouth/...how_show.php?show=84&x=18&y=9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupid

Disney Robin Hood meets “Everything I Do , I Do It For You”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BUA43Gzb8

BBC Robin Hood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElLjwbx4zBc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti1CaZU9r1c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAxiOqsAMbE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bona_Dea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ops
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgo_%28astrology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demeter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceres_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faunus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agave_%28mythology%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loathly_lady

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyN93R8BMn4

Rocket Robin Hood in the year 3000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MfisiGqtEM