the adult form is merely a robot.

we must explore and discover as children.

I keep forgetting that all roads lead to Chicago. Have fun in the woods Ted.

FWIW, these are pretty convoluted posts in which Tim is reporting his various injuries. Several people weren’t really sure if it was literal or not. Plus on top of that, I am realizing internet relationships aren’t really real anyway. They might lead to real relationships. But basically its just living vicariously on the internet. This is an internet drama.

Sure Tim is a real person, and I wish you the best Tim, I think you are on the right track in terms of seeing this as a lesson in confidence, security and the root chakra. I have offered up that I have a good bit of experience in being assualted. That hardly makes me a tough guy. But that is where these life lessons led me.

I know you like to respect the privacy of people in your rewal life relationships. I think that speaks well of you. I thought maybe you were like a carny or somthing. You mentioned that you are learning juggling and I pieced together you were in some type of group.

I just know that a lot of people don’t like hippies and rainbow people and traveling circus performers, gypsies etc. and often harass them until they move on.

So anyway, no offense intended.

Well anyway, I crashed my laptop, I am posting from UW library. Its summer, I spend too much time on the internet as it is. I think over the winter I was using the internet as a “life replacement shake”

So I think its all for the best that my laptop may be toast. The woods is calling to me. So good luck this summer Tim, if I don’t stop by here much.

Tim - glad you’re up and running … sounds like.

Control of symbols is then an illusion: the control itself is nothing but the continuing ramification of the deeper principles at work. It may claim to control, but is the end-product of processes it cannot even begin to plumb. This absurd claim is itself only the outer form of the deeper reality.

Yeah, but can you deny that evangelical ministers try to control what symbols their followers are exposed to? “Throw out your rock music. Throw out your movies and books that do not glorify god.” And you can see without comprehending. When most people see a cross, they just thik “Jesus.” Not even the literal symbol as tool of crusifixion comes to mind. Of course, maybe at a deeper level they’re getting something, but at an outer one? Does a kid whose dragged to church in the morning connect it with the four elements? Well, if he does, he dosn’t know it and he’ll soon forget it. You don’t need to have been told the meaning of a symbol (i know you can never know all the meanings of a symbol, but stay with me) to understand it, but if you’ve been told a fraction of the truth and told it’s the only truth, and a truth that will “save you from eternal torment”, are you or your deeper mind even gonah try to look into it?

the police just say they can’t do anything

My Father’s way of determining if someone was a True Man or Woman of God, to use his terminology, was to ask the question ‘Are they being persecuted?’. If they seemed to be having as easy trip to the top then they had probably been corrupted in some way. This seems to be true.

My Mother attended a Missionary College but never went to ‘The Mission Fields’. In her studies she noticed that if an area visited by missionaries ‘bore fruit’ you could be sure that the first missionaries there had been killed or had lived very long, painful lives with the natives. (This applies to Swiss, French etc. natives too.)

The territory you’re opening up may be physical or not but you got such a quick response from these natives that you must be a threat.

The symbol of the cross + illustrates this (among other things.) The vertical male principle copulates with the receptive, horizontal female principle, and the point of intersection immediately arises as a distinct entity in our perception. Further, the point of intersection brings forth the 4 (elements) and then the 5 (man.)

John Dee (in the Hieroglyphic Monad) describes the , the mixture of the 4 elements, as chaotic and watery, which must be redeemed, giving us the hierarchy of the Tetractys 1+2+3+4=10. This corresponds (I believe) to the Malkuth/Daath dual sephiroth of the Tree of Life. Malkuth is lowly and material until [something] and it ascends to create the symmetrical tree.

That’s of course just one small aspect of the cross symbol, but you see how it contains the tetractys and arguably the tree of life. Now, prior to Christianity, we have Greek/Hebrew teachings along these lines. Then the Christ event occurs, featuring this pre-existent symbol in the most prominent way possible, which expands the ramifications of the symbol into a new narrative, one which has taken a huge role in world history.

Now, when I say “new” narrative, I’m not sure I’m being completely honest. Many students of religion will know that there are incredible parallels of the Christ-narrative in pre-Christian history, see perhaps: http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/
I consider this (and many, many similar recurrences) to be evidence for the Hermetic axiom “as above, so below”: the world is nothing but the continuing realization of the ramifications of the origin. The reason the cross symbol means anything at all is because it reflects or embodies the metaphysical principles that underlie its being and shape its form. If that is so, we should not be surprised to see the seemingly impossible recurrence throughout history of deep symbols, or even surprised at, say, Goro Adachi’s predictions.

The point is that the world as we experience it exists only within the scope of our senses, in our heads. We do not (sez me) experience the world except as symbol. In the Kali Yuga, we do not have a real cultural store of knowledge to learn to the depths of these symbols, but on the other hand, the same process is what has brought all these formerly completely inaccessible occult materials to light.

Control of symbols is then an illusion: the control itself is nothing but the continuing ramification of the deeper principles at work. It may claim to control, but is the end-product of processes it cannot even begin to plumb. This absurd claim is itself only the outer form of the deeper reality.

As a total stranger who enjoys your writing, I’m glad you’re alright.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UfPBTS4hZfo

Symbols as language of Mind. No wonder the evangelical fundies don’t want their followers to look at anything but approved symbols.

What do you smoke lots of pot all the time and make money in semi-illegal ways and so you can’t go to the police? And so If people want to harass you basically they can?

No, the police just say they can’t do anything. And what can they do, really - sit outside our house 24 hours a day? Don’t really blame them.

You are younger than me, but eventually, I think you will see the wisdom of paying taxes, and making money as a writer, and maybe challenging things but not to your own destruction.

I pay taxes, make money as a writer and don’t want to be killed… It’s pretty simple.

There is no end to the stuff people can drag you into.

Too true.

And geez, Ted, try and find an iota of compassion in your soul and an ounce of wisdom in your head. Especially if you are so much older and more experienced than Tim.

You remind me of a nurse I know in the ED who couldn’t wait to come across a bad accident while driving in her car. She deeply desired the perverse satisfaction of ACTUALLY slapping the victim who wasn’t wearing their seatbelt or had failed some other test of moral turpitude.

I am not sure your post meant to be so stupidly hurtful but you sure come off sounding somewhat like a jerk. I realize this is just your thoughts but perhaps mentioning them immediately after someone has been attacked is shortsighted and callous?

A discussion as to the merits of “counterculture” living at a such a time seems only to provide you with moral satisfaction and judging others as opposed to an actual discussion of “thought processes”.

unless you want to be a total criminal bad ass and totally solve everything your own way

This only works for a little while then you end up in prison solving stupid problems like how to get your cellmate to take showers more often. The authorities co-opt rebellion and “illegitimate” solutions to problems too. That’s how bricks get into windows.

Somebody thought they had permission to do this. If it was just a neighbor who was mad because his grass got stepped on when Tim moved in it would’ve been handled differently. Things like this are a form of terrorism. “I can loudly, proudly abuse you because I represent the PTB.” The person who did this may only believe it, it may not be true, but something in his perception of reality makes him choose bricks over a more subtle form of harassment.

I’m mad now and I better quit before I give the entire history of racial/class violence in Chicago. It’s relevant bec….no, I won’t do it, divide and conquer…, no I can stop typing if I try, there’s no staute of limitations for arson in Illinois beca…..No, I can fight it, I can, I can. OK. You’re safe for now but don’t get me started.

Tough situation to be in. Or else I’m wrong, or partly right and its none of my bussiness. But you do kind of set up this thing encouraging people to solve your posts like solving a puzzle. So this is my thought process of what is going on.

I thought through some of these dilemmas with anarchism. I was into it for a while but then figured being for the establishment makes sense in a lot of ways. Making money is good. Being respectable is good. Because I believe in evolution, I believe in progress. I think there are good things in the future.

Being a total rebel all the time invites conflict. And unless you want to be a total criminal bad ass and totally solve everything your own way, its good to be in good with the authorities.

You are younger than me, but eventually, I think you will see the wisdom of paying taxes, and making money as a writer, and maybe challenging things but not to your own destruction.

As far as being a man, goes, I don’t know if its really eating of the womans fruit and taking on all her baggage and getting hit in the head with bricks. I think being a man is standing on your own two feet, calling the shots more and protecting the woman.

There is no end to the stuff people can drag you into.

Stay up.

Peace,

cadeveo

(be careful out there)