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		<title>By: Google Censoring Cryptogon - To[p oBcultu]re</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/09/16/data-backup-among-shared-value-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-86571</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Censoring Cryptogon - To[p oBcultu]re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Begin backing up and printing out your friend&#8217;s websites [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/09/16/data-backup-among-shared-value-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-85182</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We're reaching a flash-point, I think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re reaching a flash-point, I think!</p>
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		<title>By: Lion Kimbro</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/09/16/data-backup-among-shared-value-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-85179</link>
		<dc:creator>Lion Kimbro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This must be a bona fida zeitgeist;

We've been talking on &lt;a href="http://www.communitywiki.org/en/LionKimbroNamedIdeas#GutenbergWiki" rel="nofollow"&gt;the same lines at CommunityWiki.&lt;/a&gt;  There have been pre-shocks before this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This must be a bona fida zeitgeist;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been talking on <a href="http://www.communitywiki.org/en/LionKimbroNamedIdeas#GutenbergWiki" rel="nofollow">the same lines at CommunityWiki.</a>  There have been pre-shocks before this.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/09/16/data-backup-among-shared-value-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-85106</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 05:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After being away for a month, its good to come back and see you talking about some interesting cutting edge projects like this Tim.

I can see increadible power in working with the SVC, to actually get some of those "shared values" actualised in the world.. like the evironmental movement did in the 60's, or the people that invented break dancing, or the renaisance or the beats.

Just getting out there and writing the book instead of reading everyone else's is so powerfull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After being away for a month, its good to come back and see you talking about some interesting cutting edge projects like this Tim.</p>
<p>I can see increadible power in working with the SVC, to actually get some of those &#8220;shared values&#8221; actualised in the world.. like the evironmental movement did in the 60&#8217;s, or the people that invented break dancing, or the renaisance or the beats.</p>
<p>Just getting out there and writing the book instead of reading everyone else&#8217;s is so powerfull.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/09/16/data-backup-among-shared-value-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-85102</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wasnâ€™t there some website where you could enter a blog URL and it would do a print-on-demand copy of that book?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

seriously? I've been looking for something like that. tell me if/when you remember/find it, please-thanks!


&lt;blockquote&gt;
Time to start doing that, I think. Just in case.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

word to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wasnâ€™t there some website where you could enter a blog URL and it would do a print-on-demand copy of that book?</p></blockquote>
<p>seriously? I&#8217;ve been looking for something like that. tell me if/when you remember/find it, please-thanks!</p>
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Time to start doing that, I think. Just in case.</p></blockquote>
<p>word to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/09/16/data-backup-among-shared-value-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-85101</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is exactly what the Nag Hammadi library was all about: data mirroring and backup among shared value communities&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Good point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is exactly what the Nag Hammadi library was all about: data mirroring and backup among shared value communities</p></blockquote>
<p>Good point!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/09/16/data-backup-among-shared-value-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-85091</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;no oneâ€™s watching the phone lines, only the routers!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Matrix operators.

Old school tech is about to become more powerful again very rapidly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>no oneâ€™s watching the phone lines, only the routers!</p></blockquote>
<p>The Matrix operators.</p>
<p>Old school tech is about to become more powerful again very rapidly.</p>
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		<title>By: p</title>
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		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice place to start might be by looking into textfiles.com, archives of BBSs from the old days.

The curator, Jason Scott, also made the BBS documentary, which I found utterly fascinating (but I began programming in that era, as a little kid.)

people could do internet requests in those days by having them forwarded through the BBS network until one with net access was reached. this is still being done by Chinese behind the firewall, no one's watching the phone lines, only the routers!

Another helpful keyword might be "accmail", a system (now kinda rare, but very useful at times) to do HTTP over email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice place to start might be by looking into textfiles.com, archives of BBSs from the old days.</p>
<p>The curator, Jason Scott, also made the BBS documentary, which I found utterly fascinating (but I began programming in that era, as a little kid.)</p>
<p>people could do internet requests in those days by having them forwarded through the BBS network until one with net access was reached. this is still being done by Chinese behind the firewall, no one&#8217;s watching the phone lines, only the routers!</p>
<p>Another helpful keyword might be &#8220;accmail&#8221;, a system (now kinda rare, but very useful at times) to do HTTP over email.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/09/16/data-backup-among-shared-value-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-85084</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's research it collaboratively and figure out what the best way to address these issues are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s research it collaboratively and figure out what the best way to address these issues are.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/09/16/data-backup-among-shared-value-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-85081</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn't somebody think about making a copy of the whole internet during the dot.com boom? I think it was someone who found himself a billionaire and was serious about doing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t somebody think about making a copy of the whole internet during the dot.com boom? I think it was someone who found himself a billionaire and was serious about doing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/09/16/data-backup-among-shared-value-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-85077</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly what the Nag Hammadi library was all about: data mirroring and backup among shared value communities:

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly what the Nag Hammadi library was all about: data mirroring and backup among shared value communities:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html'>http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html</a></p>
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