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	<title>Comments on: Marvin Minsky&#8217;s Society of Mind</title>
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		<title>By: speedbird</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2007/10/27/marvin-minskys-society-of-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-86548</link>
		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my baptist friend says that what i do in hypnosis is the work of demons and that i`m at risk of possession.

my answer to that is that i`m able to cope with my shit, thanks.

i`m actually staggered at the depth of fear that religion instills in some.

that`s my take julia, for what it`s worth.

as a leader i`ve been called worse than an egotist.

p.d. ouspensky, in his, the psychology of man`s possible evolution, says that most are never more than sleeping and function automatically.

so when the machines wake up we are in an interesting spot.......marvin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my baptist friend says that what i do in hypnosis is the work of demons and that i`m at risk of possession.</p>
<p>my answer to that is that i`m able to cope with my shit, thanks.</p>
<p>i`m actually staggered at the depth of fear that religion instills in some.</p>
<p>that`s my take julia, for what it`s worth.</p>
<p>as a leader i`ve been called worse than an egotist.</p>
<p>p.d. ouspensky, in his, the psychology of man`s possible evolution, says that most are never more than sleeping and function automatically.</p>
<p>so when the machines wake up we are in an interesting spot&#8230;&#8230;.marvin?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Marvin, thanks for stopping by!



&lt;blockquote&gt;I really like your summary in the box at the top of the page: â€œA core . . . results.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's from Wikipedia's entry. The simplicity of it struck me as well.



&lt;blockquote&gt;Some kind of referential mistake there, I think.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, the tumblelog format leaves a lot to be desired, but I'm exploring alternatives. 



&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually, I sort of like the romantic flow of that passage..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Me too, one of the things I like about the tumblelog/clickstream style of capturing annotated data.



&lt;blockquote&gt;It reminds me of Rousseauâ€™s â€œsocial contractâ€ philosophy; however, I canâ€™t recall agreeing to any such contract.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, that's the problem about that. I also was never consulted on just what the "consensus" was that consensus reality was founded on. 

But maybe that's the opportunity which lies before us: to form those contracts in ourselves, with others and with the technology which surrounds us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Marvin, thanks for stopping by!</p>
<blockquote><p>I really like your summary in the box at the top of the page: â€œA core . . . results.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s from Wikipedia&#8217;s entry. The simplicity of it struck me as well.</p>
<blockquote><p>Some kind of referential mistake there, I think.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, the tumblelog format leaves a lot to be desired, but I&#8217;m exploring alternatives. </p>
<blockquote><p>Actually, I sort of like the romantic flow of that passage..</p></blockquote>
<p>Me too, one of the things I like about the tumblelog/clickstream style of capturing annotated data.</p>
<blockquote><p>It reminds me of Rousseauâ€™s â€œsocial contractâ€ philosophy; however, I canâ€™t recall agreeing to any such contract.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s the problem about that. I also was never consulted on just what the &#8220;consensus&#8221; was that consensus reality was founded on. </p>
<p>But maybe that&#8217;s the opportunity which lies before us: to form those contracts in ourselves, with others and with the technology which surrounds us.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to learn to sub-contract out to sub-personalities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to learn to sub-contract out to sub-personalities?</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin Minsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin Minsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like your summary in the box at the top of the page: "A core . . . results." The paragraph better expresses that set of ideas than all the brief versions that I've tried to write! 


Umm, then I noticed a link to a URL at
http://timboucher.tumblr.com/post/17482972
which attributes Jane Robertsâ€™ quote [â€œeach personalityâ€¦inner mind.â€] to me.    Some kind of referential mistake there, I think.

Actually, I sort of like the romantic flow of that passage.  It reminds me of  Rousseauâ€™s â€œsocial contractâ€ philosophy; however, I canâ€™t recall agreeing to any such contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like your summary in the box at the top of the page: &#8220;A core . . . results.&#8221; The paragraph better expresses that set of ideas than all the brief versions that I&#8217;ve tried to write! </p>
<p>Umm, then I noticed a link to a URL at<br />
<a href="http://timboucher.tumblr.com/post/17482972" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://timboucher.tumblr.com/post/17482972'>http://timboucher.tumblr.com/post/17482972</a><br />
which attributes Jane Robertsâ€™ quote [â€œeach personalityâ€¦inner mind.â€] to me.    Some kind of referential mistake there, I think.</p>
<p>Actually, I sort of like the romantic flow of that passage.  It reminds me of  Rousseauâ€™s â€œsocial contractâ€ philosophy; however, I canâ€™t recall agreeing to any such contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2003/11/12/aleister-crowley-the-goetic-demons-and-the-pharmaceutical-industry/
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/04/the-wave-particle-duality-of-spirits/

To become king, oaths of fealty or other pacts must be instantiated 

{See also: Ark of the Covenant}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2003/11/12/aleister-crowley-the-goetic-demons-and-the-pharmaceutical-industry/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2003/11/12/aleister-crowley-the-goetic-demons-and-the-pharmaceutical-industry/'>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2003...mons-and-the-pharmaceutical-industry/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/04/the-wave-particle-duality-of-spirits/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/10/04/the-wave-particle-duality-of-spirits/'>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005...the-wave-particle-duality-of-spirits/</a></p>
<p>To become king, oaths of fealty or other pacts must be instantiated </p>
<p>{See also: Ark of the Covenant}</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry is this question goes Duh in the Homer Simpson sense but here goes. Is this a way to look at the 72 demons of Goetia? Some things I've read says they're real demons with real chains of command etc. and others say they're internal states/complexes and when you've mastered them you'll know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry is this question goes Duh in the Homer Simpson sense but here goes. Is this a way to look at the 72 demons of Goetia? Some things I&#8217;ve read says they&#8217;re real demons with real chains of command etc. and others say they&#8217;re internal states/complexes and when you&#8217;ve mastered them you&#8217;ll know.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOLY SHIT 

That makes it all so clear

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry

Those systems of government are advocated by people within whom those challenges have been met.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_actualization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets

It's a universal repeatable process crossing all culture.

I think we just solved the Da Vinci Code!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOLY SHIT </p>
<p>That makes it all so clear</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminism" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminism'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminism</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry</a></p>
<p>Those systems of government are advocated by people within whom those challenges have been met.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_actualization" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_actualization'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_actualization</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a universal repeatable process crossing all culture.</p>
<p>I think we just solved the Da Vinci Code!</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 04:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out "Aspect Psychology" for a similar angle. It views the human psyche a whole civilization of personality 'aspects' which make up each individual. (&lt;a href="http://newworldview.com/library/Helfrich_P_Seth_Jane_Book_Listing.html#PP" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jane Roberts' &lt;em&gt;'Psychic Politics (An Aspect Psychology Book'&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;):



&lt;blockquote&gt;â€œEach personality contains an inner civilization of the self which he yearns to govern ... The ego rises from the civilization of the psyche just as a leader rises from the masses of the people; appointed, chosen, or taking control according to an inner politics first existing within the greater inner mind.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out &#8220;Aspect Psychology&#8221; for a similar angle. It views the human psyche a whole civilization of personality &#8216;aspects&#8217; which make up each individual. (<a href="http://newworldview.com/library/Helfrich_P_Seth_Jane_Book_Listing.html#PP" rel="nofollow">Jane Roberts&#8217; <em>&#8216;Psychic Politics (An Aspect Psychology Book&#8217;</em></a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>â€œEach personality contains an inner civilization of the self which he yearns to govern &#8230; The ego rises from the civilization of the psyche just as a leader rises from the masses of the people; appointed, chosen, or taking control according to an inner politics first existing within the greater inner mind.â€</p></blockquote>
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