Comments on: Selfless Love & Romantic Relationships

By: alistair

alistair — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:38:18 +0000

julia, i`ve tried to hold him responsible also, to no avail…………

By: Sean

Sean — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:09:40 +0000

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By: Julia

Julia — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:22:59 +0000

in all the time that i`ve been commenting here i have been in the process of witnessing the dissolution of the relationship between the mother of my children and myself.

Tim, why did you destroy alastair’s marriage?

By: R. E. Johnson II

R. E. Johnson II — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:52:24 +0000

Geez Louise.

By: Eric

Eric — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:08:08 +0000

Perhaps passion serves a twofold purpose:
1) to initiate and inspire you to your life/work (and I suspect that real (divine) passion inspires one to some aspect of The Great Work, which I think of as reunification)
2) to attract those who can help you in that task
It seems like feeling helps in learning, and sensuality helps to develop and expand feeling. In that way, an intimate (eros) relationship can help one grow. I think the meanings of all feelings have encodings in the body, so the knowledge of the other gender, and of another person, might help to expand the ability to feel agape for other beings and existence in general, nevermind understand your own experience better.
Also, does this connection hold any water?:
eros > Brahma
agape > Vishnu
?? > Shiva
Did the greeks have a word for something like ‘loving destruction’? I think of the cutting/burning away of bullshit as a kind of loving destruction. Does Shiva represent that in any way? (I just remembered the trinity, and only roughly their details.)
I was going to say something about yoga and tantra, but I don’t know enough of either, beyond that they seem relevant to this topic.

By: alistair

alistair — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:55:06 +0000

i think number four brings it into focus….. the “supposed” behaviours are the one`s we are told to behave in accordance with.

and as we live our lives we come to the outer edge of the boundary of the territory that the rules of behaviour dictate.

when we arrive here now we find that the rules, and the courts of obedience fail us.

in all the time that i`ve been commenting here i have been in the process of witnessing the dissolution of the relationship between the mother of my children and myself.

in this period (the better part of three years.) i have gone from sharing a bed, to the couch in my office, to seperate living accomodations.

as much as we can unconditionally love another and so on, when the other person decides thier path is taking them elsewhere, we can only look inward for solutions.

the sharing in the community you write about here fell on deaf ears in our home. her interest was in work and sleep.

if you weren`t working there was a problem, in her view.

she failed to recognise the value in communion and never knew her niegbours in the homes we owned together.

and to legislate a behaviour isn`t going to work for anyone, community or otherwise.

the breaking of bread and drinking of a warm beverage with like-minded people is vital to the fabric of a commuity.

i spent two hours today at starbucks while it rained and snowed outside, sharing the fellowship of christian, clint, anna, justine, jamie, the a.a. group (who stick to themselves for the most part) and my close friend bob.

surround yourself with strength.

as alan watts said, it is the difference between prickles and goo……..the difference between mechanisms and organisms.

we cannot say what love is and make rules about it and dictate behaviour accordingly.

next we will be able to get a certificate saying we are trained in how to love.

if the bureaucrats have thier way.