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	<title>Comments on: Mental Illness, The &#8220;HOT NEW THING&#8221;!</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/01/14/mental-illness-the-hot-new-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-95624</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I can think of nothing more likely to push me over the edge than the sudden realisation that all of my family and friends really have been conspiring against me behind my back.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Abso-fucking-lutely! The whole thing reeks of some kind of communist concentration camp ethics too: confront the traitor, turn in the trouble-maker.</description>
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<p>Abso-fucking-lutely! The whole thing reeks of some kind of communist concentration camp ethics too: confront the traitor, turn in the trouble-maker.</p>
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		<title>By: cheeba</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheeba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the diagnosis of mental illness has always been inflected by wealth and status - the poor man's 'crazy' is the rich man's 'mildly eccentric'. But when we start talking about feedback loops, the expression of latent genetic predipositions etc., it all becomes a bit more tricky. How do we distinguish between a 'sense of grandiosity' (plain crazy version) and someone who feels that way because they are very rich and famous and they have had their every whim catered to for 10 years without anyone around them ever contradicting anything they say? See also: rate of celebrity divorces, where the one person in your life who might contradict you becomes intolerable for that  very reason.

I think a similar thing (and cf. alpha dog post) happens with world leaders (sic) - when everyone around you starts sending subconscious signals / pheromones that you are top dog your genetic code actually responds, like an alpha wolf's altered scent, or a silverback gorilla, or that crazy thing that happens to male Orang-Utans. Hence Presidents, Prime Ministers etc, seem to fill out physically when they come into power, and suddenly look weakened and fragile when they leave it (step forward, Bill Clinton. And now step back again). [Also some scientific studies on crowds at football games - those males have higher testosterone levels whose team has won, and lowered levels whose team lost.] 

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'â€œHow To Confront Loved Ones About Mental Illnessâ€ - which fucking creeps me out.'

I always got freaked by the whole (American?) idea of 'the Intervention' - I can think of nothing more likely to push me over the edge than the sudden realisation that all of my family and friends really have been conspiring against me behind my back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the diagnosis of mental illness has always been inflected by wealth and status - the poor man&#8217;s &#8216;crazy&#8217; is the rich man&#8217;s &#8216;mildly eccentric&#8217;. But when we start talking about feedback loops, the expression of latent genetic predipositions etc., it all becomes a bit more tricky. How do we distinguish between a &#8217;sense of grandiosity&#8217; (plain crazy version) and someone who feels that way because they are very rich and famous and they have had their every whim catered to for 10 years without anyone around them ever contradicting anything they say? See also: rate of celebrity divorces, where the one person in your life who might contradict you becomes intolerable for that  very reason.</p>
<p>I think a similar thing (and cf. alpha dog post) happens with world leaders (sic) - when everyone around you starts sending subconscious signals / pheromones that you are top dog your genetic code actually responds, like an alpha wolf&#8217;s altered scent, or a silverback gorilla, or that crazy thing that happens to male Orang-Utans. Hence Presidents, Prime Ministers etc, seem to fill out physically when they come into power, and suddenly look weakened and fragile when they leave it (step forward, Bill Clinton. And now step back again). [Also some scientific studies on crowds at football games - those males have higher testosterone levels whose team has won, and lowered levels whose team lost.] </p>
<p>==</p>
<p>&#8216;â€œHow To Confront Loved Ones About Mental Illnessâ€ - which fucking creeps me out.&#8217;</p>
<p>I always got freaked by the whole (American?) idea of &#8216;the Intervention&#8217; - I can think of nothing more likely to push me over the edge than the sudden realisation that all of my family and friends really have been conspiring against me behind my back.</p>
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		<title>By: carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I reckon: Britney is showing us all how to Go Crazyâ„¢ in a nice predictable way. We will condemn her behaviour, demand she be Treatedâ„¢, then when we feel under pressure from, say, remote-controlled taser drones and $100 for a loaf of bread, we will Go Crazyâ„¢ just like Britney, and expect to be Treatedâ„¢ just like Britney.

Same as that Into the Wild dude showing us what happens when you try to go all lone wolf and live wild. These 'episodes' are tutorials for the potentially malcontent. Hope you're all paying attention, there will be an examination.

People who play by their own rules:

A) Starve to death in a bus
B) Are publicly humiliated and lose custody of their kids
C) Crash their Mercedes in a tunnel in Paris
D) Are not you if you know what's good for you

&lt;a href="http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/2007/02/britneys-via-dolorosa-part-one.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ben Fairhall had a nice series on Britney's woes&lt;/a&gt; last year. Totally worth a read, as is the rest of his site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I reckon: Britney is showing us all how to Go Crazyâ„¢ in a nice predictable way. We will condemn her behaviour, demand she be Treatedâ„¢, then when we feel under pressure from, say, remote-controlled taser drones and $100 for a loaf of bread, we will Go Crazyâ„¢ just like Britney, and expect to be Treatedâ„¢ just like Britney.</p>
<p>Same as that Into the Wild dude showing us what happens when you try to go all lone wolf and live wild. These &#8216;episodes&#8217; are tutorials for the potentially malcontent. Hope you&#8217;re all paying attention, there will be an examination.</p>
<p>People who play by their own rules:</p>
<p>A) Starve to death in a bus<br />
B) Are publicly humiliated and lose custody of their kids<br />
C) Crash their Mercedes in a tunnel in Paris<br />
D) Are not you if you know what&#8217;s good for you</p>
<p><a href="http://ben-fairhall.blogspot.com/2007/02/britneys-via-dolorosa-part-one.html" rel="nofollow">Ben Fairhall had a nice series on Britney&#8217;s woes</a> last year. Totally worth a read, as is the rest of his site.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please elaborate for our studio audience watching at home!</description>
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		<title>By: speedbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; isnâ€™t the whole POINT of celebrities that they play by their own rules?

They have to /look/ like they play by their own rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; isnâ€™t the whole POINT of celebrities that they play by their own rules?</p>
<p>They have to /look/ like they play by their own rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speedbird, I meant to glom onto that passage as well. Wild, isn't it, that they have a psychiatrist giving opinions on Britney who has never acually treated her at all! Second of all, isn't the whole POINT of celebrities that they play by their own rules?

Speaking of electroshock, there are some really good bits in that Dr. Bronner documentary about that. He calls the mental institution he was committed to (and later escaped from) a concentration camp, the people who run it communists, and talks about how its important to have these phrases and slogans he came up with saved in your frontal lobe or something so that they won't be erased by electroshock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speedbird, I meant to glom onto that passage as well. Wild, isn&#8217;t it, that they have a psychiatrist giving opinions on Britney who has never acually treated her at all! Second of all, isn&#8217;t the whole POINT of celebrities that they play by their own rules?</p>
<p>Speaking of electroshock, there are some really good bits in that Dr. Bronner documentary about that. He calls the mental institution he was committed to (and later escaped from) a concentration camp, the people who run it communists, and talks about how its important to have these phrases and slogans he came up with saved in your frontal lobe or something so that they won&#8217;t be erased by electroshock.</p>
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		<title>By: p</title>
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		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when I look at electroshock, I feel like we're barely out of the caves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when I look at electroshock, I feel like we&#8217;re barely out of the caves.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;for many years it was common practice to have people institutionalised by loved ones for â€œthier own goodâ€ and be subjected to electric shock treatment, drugs and various forms of state sanctioned brainwashingâ€¦â€¦in this country. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

My parents knew three people who had this done to them after they were 'Saved', changed their lifestyle and began speaking in tounges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>for many years it was common practice to have people institutionalised by loved ones for â€œthier own goodâ€ and be subjected to electric shock treatment, drugs and various forms of state sanctioned brainwashingâ€¦â€¦in this country. </p></blockquote>
<p>My parents knew three people who had this done to them after they were &#8216;Saved&#8217;, changed their lifestyle and began speaking in tounges.</p>
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		<title>By: speedbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. 'I play by my own rules' is very interesting territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. &#8216;I play by my own rules&#8217; is very interesting territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, someone had to take Michael's place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, someone had to take Michael&#8217;s place.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Boucher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm unhappy to say that I agree with your predictions. 

See also the rise of Scientology, a corporatized religious psychology alternative for the super-elite

http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/14/drugs-vs-scientology-a-set-up/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m unhappy to say that I agree with your predictions. </p>
<p>See also the rise of Scientology, a corporatized religious psychology alternative for the super-elite</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/14/drugs-vs-scientology-a-set-up/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/14/drugs-vs-scientology-a-set-up/'>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/14/drugs-vs-scientology-a-set-up/</a></p>
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		<title>By: alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for many years it was common practice to have people institutionalised by loved ones for "thier own good" and be subjected to electric shock treatment, drugs and various forms of state sanctioned brainwashing......in this country. 

the pendulum is merely swinging back that way again, and ms.spears is the poster girl for the movement.

many of the nations homeless are former guests of the government, and when the funding for the psychiatric hospital programs dried up all of the guests were asked to find alternative accomodation.

my feeling is that the money will suspiciously re-appear fairly shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for many years it was common practice to have people institutionalised by loved ones for &#8220;thier own good&#8221; and be subjected to electric shock treatment, drugs and various forms of state sanctioned brainwashing&#8230;&#8230;in this country. </p>
<p>the pendulum is merely swinging back that way again, and ms.spears is the poster girl for the movement.</p>
<p>many of the nations homeless are former guests of the government, and when the funding for the psychiatric hospital programs dried up all of the guests were asked to find alternative accomodation.</p>
<p>my feeling is that the money will suspiciously re-appear fairly shortly.</p>
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