Comments on: Elections & Consensus Building

By: alistair

alistair — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:33:05 +0000

http://www.detaxcanada.org/filingT1.htm

speaking of hijacking the natural flow of commerce……..

the reason why we can never cash in our bonds is because we are feudal slaves, as evidenced by the history lesson outlined above.

gotta love that crazy old pope.

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:38:56 +0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_in_exile

A government in exile is a political group that claims to be a country’s legitimate government, but for various reasons is unable to exercise its legal power, and instead resides in a foreign country. Governments in exile usually operate under the assumption that they will one day return to their native country and regain power.

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Buy LEVI JEANS! - [tmbchr]â„¢ — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:15:08 +0000

[...] I take back what I said before. Actually, no, I amend it. That’s my right as an American. I was riding my bike through the streets of Hampden and got to thinking: people who are truly powerful simply act. They don’t make excuses or explanations or ask others for permission. Elections are after-the-fact rituals designed to get everybody else on board for things which have already been decided, and in all likelihood are well underway. You’re not surrendering your authority by voting because you don’t have any. You haven’t developed it. Watch HBOs Rome! Articles With Similar Themes: [...]

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:56:24 +0000

if you want to learn quickly how commerce works, sell drugs.

OMG!

By: alistair

alistair — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:33:25 +0000

we are more like the holders of bonds, which are evidence of debt, but are incapable of redeeming them for value.

if you want to learn quickly how commerce works, sell drugs. otherwise any learning you get will be through the tax code, which is part of my first comment.

interestingly, regarding the selling of drugs, the government relies on the selling of drugs and other aspects of the underground economy as a way of keeping the peace. without it this game of slavery would have descended back into civil war a long time ago.

look at how closely the eye of government is held on all manner of commerce, to the point where they use tax rebates as a way of staving off a recession. this does little to help the plight of any individual, but merely injects a few billion extra un-earned dollars into the economy to keep the consumer spasm pumping…..

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:59:42 +0000

Whether we’re customers of stockholders, there is still a level of reliance on the value/energy we put into the machine. But hey, sustainable/green business practices are going to save everybody, right?

By: carlos

carlos — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:55:34 +0000

This is good stuff but for one thing: We’re customers, not stockholders.

Which is why this rings true:

The point is: get people invested emotionally, even if they know their ambitions wonâ€™t be fulfilled…

Marketing 101.

But if your analogy prefers to insist that we are stockholders then the purpose of the President/CEO is to enrich the executives at the expense of the stockholders while the whole company goes bankrupt. The United States of Enron.

None of that changes anything else you wrote though, I just think people should keep in mind what side of the glass they’re standing on.

By: Julia

Julia — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:19:13 +0000

You’re right about this. There are routes to empowerment we all have access to. They’re being coopted by the gov’t but that’s Big Brother’s job. Big Brother has legitimate disasters that affect us all whether we like it or not anyway. Here’s what “they” give in exchange for your cooperation. It’ll be more valuable in the future.

http://www.progressive.org/mag_rothschild0308

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:03:28 +0000

any â€™specially recommended sources for the beginner?

No, sorry! Maybe other readers have recommendations? Wikipedia is always a good place to start learning terminology anyway. Then you can at least navigate the waters…

By: Tiny Ocean

Tiny Ocean — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:37:48 +0000

I’m Tiny Ocean and I TOTALLY SECOND THIS MESSAGE (and seal it with a high five).

By: Brooke

Brooke — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:35:36 +0000

take that time and invest it learning about how corporations work.

any ’specially recommended sources for the beginner?

By: Tim Boucher

Tim Boucher — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:02:59 +0000

Another fun business idea, although this is almost certainly illegal (so don’t do it, assholes!): sell your voting authority to foreigners or directly to transnational corporate entities. In other words, find out what their agenda is, figure out which candidate supports it and RAKE IN THE CASH!!! For extra points, organize entire neighborhoods and demographic voting blocks and SELL!!! SELL!!! SELL!!! your votes away! At least then you’ll be getting your money’s worth!