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	<title>Comments on: People Are Sheep, And So What?</title>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/02/25/people-are-sheep-and-so-what/comment-page-1/#comment-101716</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Grouping as friends sounds goodâ€¦ following the leader doesnâ€™t.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

*Sounds* good being the thing. It's only people who are naturally leaders who don't like following leaders. Everyone else seems to fucking ADORE it and there's really nothing wrong with that. 

Unfortunately though, you're always following SOME leader, whether you know it or like it or not. Trying to escape it entirely is a futile and pointless pastime, really. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;most people seem more comfortable NOT guessing for themselves,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then I say: fuck "most people". You can't do it for them, and trying to get them to be or act differently than they are right now is YOU becoming a leader and trying to get them to follow you and now you're right back in another logical impossibility. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Their sheepiness is an attempt to avoid the epistemological reality you describe. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, but avoiding reality does not exempt you from it. Ultimately, their experience ends up to be exactly equivalent. We all experience life, we all end up dead. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Theyâ€™re not thoughful people flocking with like mindsâ€“theyâ€™re people who trade thought for false comfort.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Comfort is comfort. There's no such thing as a false comfort. Doesn't mean it's good for you though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Grouping as friends sounds goodâ€¦ following the leader doesnâ€™t.</p></blockquote>
<p>*Sounds* good being the thing. It&#8217;s only people who are naturally leaders who don&#8217;t like following leaders. Everyone else seems to fucking ADORE it and there&#8217;s really nothing wrong with that. </p>
<p>Unfortunately though, you&#8217;re always following SOME leader, whether you know it or like it or not. Trying to escape it entirely is a futile and pointless pastime, really. </p>
<blockquote><p>most people seem more comfortable NOT guessing for themselves,</p></blockquote>
<p>Then I say: fuck &#8220;most people&#8221;. You can&#8217;t do it for them, and trying to get them to be or act differently than they are right now is YOU becoming a leader and trying to get them to follow you and now you&#8217;re right back in another logical impossibility. </p>
<blockquote><p>Their sheepiness is an attempt to avoid the epistemological reality you describe. </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but avoiding reality does not exempt you from it. Ultimately, their experience ends up to be exactly equivalent. We all experience life, we all end up dead. </p>
<blockquote><p>Theyâ€™re not thoughful people flocking with like mindsâ€“theyâ€™re people who trade thought for false comfort.</p></blockquote>
<p>Comfort is comfort. There&#8217;s no such thing as a false comfort. Doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s good for you though.</p>
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		<title>By: Copper Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/02/25/people-are-sheep-and-so-what/comment-page-1/#comment-101713</link>
		<dc:creator>Copper Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grouping as friends sounds good... following the leader doesn't.  

Seems to me that the "so what" is in the fact that most people seem more comfortable NOT guessing for themselves, but rather seek someone who presents the image of knowing what's going on.  Their sheepiness is an attempt to avoid the epistemological reality you describe.  They're not thoughful people flocking with like minds--they're people who trade thought for false comfort.  

Eat the leaders!  More power to coyotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grouping as friends sounds good&#8230; following the leader doesn&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Seems to me that the &#8220;so what&#8221; is in the fact that most people seem more comfortable NOT guessing for themselves, but rather seek someone who presents the image of knowing what&#8217;s going on.  Their sheepiness is an attempt to avoid the epistemological reality you describe.  They&#8217;re not thoughful people flocking with like minds&#8211;they&#8217;re people who trade thought for false comfort.  </p>
<p>Eat the leaders!  More power to coyotes.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/02/25/people-are-sheep-and-so-what/comment-page-1/#comment-101683</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;you donâ€™t even need to know what is going onâ€¦just act like you do and people will follow.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bingo! It's all about performance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>you donâ€™t even need to know what is going onâ€¦just act like you do and people will follow.</p></blockquote>
<p>Bingo! It&#8217;s all about performance</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Heistman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Heistman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short to medium term...you don't even need to know what is going on...just act like you do and people will follow. 

I remember as a new kid in school, I would tell a joke and people who didn't know me w ould look at the popular kids andsee if they laughed and if they did they would laugh too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short to medium term&#8230;you don&#8217;t even need to know what is going on&#8230;just act like you do and people will follow. </p>
<p>I remember as a new kid in school, I would tell a joke and people who didn&#8217;t know me w ould look at the popular kids andsee if they laughed and if they did they would laugh too!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/02/25/people-are-sheep-and-so-what/comment-page-1/#comment-101578</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt, i didn't mean to imply that it was actually figure-out-able.  More that the process of trying to figure out my life was more important than worrying about whether or not everyone else had figured out theirs.  

There's a connection I noticed between accepting your "sheep" nature and taking responsability for not doing so blindly.  As you say, to make decisions about your life and take action.  Not to find an end-all solution to anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt, i didn&#8217;t mean to imply that it was actually figure-out-able.  More that the process of trying to figure out my life was more important than worrying about whether or not everyone else had figured out theirs.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a connection I noticed between accepting your &#8220;sheep&#8221; nature and taking responsability for not doing so blindly.  As you say, to make decisions about your life and take action.  Not to find an end-all solution to anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/02/25/people-are-sheep-and-so-what/comment-page-1/#comment-101574</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;that now I had to figure out what the fuck was going on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not really. You more just make decisions about your life and take actions. You never really "figure out" Life, I don't think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>that now I had to figure out what the fuck was going on.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not really. You more just make decisions about your life and take actions. You never really &#8220;figure out&#8221; Life, I don&#8217;t think.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick thought that I was trying to put together earlier and couldn't:

Another way of looking at this is if you're capable of building it, they will come.  Assuming that you can understand what "it" is in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick thought that I was trying to put together earlier and couldn&#8217;t:</p>
<p>Another way of looking at this is if you&#8217;re capable of building it, they will come.  Assuming that you can understand what &#8220;it&#8221; is in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was one of the happiest relizations I ever had.  It's the Tao Te Ching's "what is the wise man but the foolish man's teacher, what is the foolish man but the wise man's student?"  

This was followed quickly by the terrifying realization that now &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; had to figure out what the fuck was going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was one of the happiest relizations I ever had.  It&#8217;s the Tao Te Ching&#8217;s &#8220;what is the wise man but the foolish man&#8217;s teacher, what is the foolish man but the wise man&#8217;s student?&#8221;  </p>
<p>This was followed quickly by the terrifying realization that now <em>I</em> had to figure out what the fuck was going on.</p>
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