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		<title>By: cheeba</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/04/14/human-search-requests-circus-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-104640</link>
		<dc:creator>cheeba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'scraps, clips and links... about â€œold-fashioned hospitalityâ€ '

Sure - why not? How about ancient Ireland?

"Turlough Oâ€™Carolan was an Irish harpist who lived in the mid-1600s and wrote pieces for the people he met and stayed with - playing music in exchange for hospitality. Tradition has it that the harp was played last thing at night, before people went to bed." http://dedanaan.com/

"To refuse someone food and shelter where it is due would make the offender guilty of the offence of esa/in [literally, 'driving away']. Hospitality is the duty of every freeman. Refusal requires a compensation equal to their honor price." http://www.ancientsites.com/aw/Article/256419#2

Vaguely connected to the general theme of nomaditry, as the Fenian bands would travel around defending the borders or hunting for half of the year and spend the other half relaxing at home; as per Hakim Bey: 
"I would guess that the old life way of transhumancy always proved both enjoyable and practical, at least in small scale economies. Twice a year you get up and move, travel, change your life and even your diet - - a taste of nomadic freedom. But always the same two places. One place is typically more heimlich than the other -- the village, the hearth; while the other place is typically wilder than the first, and this one might be called the place of Desire, of Summer.
In the tales of Finn Mac Cumal and his Fenian band we nearly always meet them at this wilder end of the spectrum, the greenwood, the landscape of the hunt which reaches "back" in time to a more golden pre-agricultural age, and also "aslant" in time -- to Tir nan Og, the Land of Summer, realm of the Tuatha de Danaan, who are both the Dead and the Fairies. "
http://www.t0.or.at/hakimbey/summer.htm

"The hierarchy of the time meant that a tuath was part of a mÃ³r-tuath (three or four tuaithe), which in turned joined together to form a cÃ³iced, each cÃ³iced (Munster, Ulster, Connaught, Leinster and Meath) forming Ireland as a whole unit. Every tuath, mÃ³r-tuath and cÃ³iced had its own RÃ­, though no matter what grade of RÃ­ they were, they ultimately were still the leader of one small tuatha aswell. Despite this hierarchy, decisions and power still lay largely close to the Gaelic people, decision making seeping upwards only in small amounts to the higher ranking RÃ­g, the mirror image of our modern system where power is held at the top and only seeps down to the Irish people in small amounts. " http://craobhgalgreine.blogspot.com/2007/03/gaelic-ireland-craobh-gal-grine.html

All of which reminds me of this weird 1983 Semiotext(e) book I'm reading at the moment, "bolo'bolo" by a guy calling himself p.m. - basically a utopian thought-experiment where everyone lives in anarchistish communes and there is total freedom of movement between them backed up by a universal honour code of hospitality.

So there you go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8217;scraps, clips and links&#8230; about â€œold-fashioned hospitalityâ€ &#8216;</p>
<p>Sure - why not? How about ancient Ireland?</p>
<p>&#8220;Turlough Oâ€™Carolan was an Irish harpist who lived in the mid-1600s and wrote pieces for the people he met and stayed with - playing music in exchange for hospitality. Tradition has it that the harp was played last thing at night, before people went to bed.&#8221; <a href="http://dedanaan.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://dedanaan.com/'>http://dedanaan.com/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;To refuse someone food and shelter where it is due would make the offender guilty of the offence of esa/in [literally, 'driving away']. Hospitality is the duty of every freeman. Refusal requires a compensation equal to their honor price.&#8221; <a href="http://www.ancientsites.com/aw/Article/256419#2" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.ancientsites.com/aw/Article/256419#2'>http://www.ancientsites.com/aw/Article/256419#2</a></p>
<p>Vaguely connected to the general theme of nomaditry, as the Fenian bands would travel around defending the borders or hunting for half of the year and spend the other half relaxing at home; as per Hakim Bey:<br />
&#8220;I would guess that the old life way of transhumancy always proved both enjoyable and practical, at least in small scale economies. Twice a year you get up and move, travel, change your life and even your diet - - a taste of nomadic freedom. But always the same two places. One place is typically more heimlich than the other &#8212; the village, the hearth; while the other place is typically wilder than the first, and this one might be called the place of Desire, of Summer.<br />
In the tales of Finn Mac Cumal and his Fenian band we nearly always meet them at this wilder end of the spectrum, the greenwood, the landscape of the hunt which reaches &#8220;back&#8221; in time to a more golden pre-agricultural age, and also &#8220;aslant&#8221; in time &#8212; to Tir nan Og, the Land of Summer, realm of the Tuatha de Danaan, who are both the Dead and the Fairies. &#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.t0.or.at/hakimbey/summer.htm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.t0.or.at/hakimbey/summer.htm'>http://www.t0.or.at/hakimbey/summer.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The hierarchy of the time meant that a tuath was part of a mÃ³r-tuath (three or four tuaithe), which in turned joined together to form a cÃ³iced, each cÃ³iced (Munster, Ulster, Connaught, Leinster and Meath) forming Ireland as a whole unit. Every tuath, mÃ³r-tuath and cÃ³iced had its own RÃ­, though no matter what grade of RÃ­ they were, they ultimately were still the leader of one small tuatha aswell. Despite this hierarchy, decisions and power still lay largely close to the Gaelic people, decision making seeping upwards only in small amounts to the higher ranking RÃ­g, the mirror image of our modern system where power is held at the top and only seeps down to the Irish people in small amounts. &#8221; <a href="http://craobhgalgreine.blogspot.com/2007/03/gaelic-ireland-craobh-gal-grine.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://craobhgalgreine.blogspot.com/2007/03/gaelic-ireland-craobh-gal-grine.html'>http://craobhgalgreine.blogspot.com/20.../gaelic-ireland-craobh-gal-grine.html</a></p>
<p>All of which reminds me of this weird 1983 Semiotext(e) book I&#8217;m reading at the moment, &#8220;bolo&#8217;bolo&#8221; by a guy calling himself p.m. - basically a utopian thought-experiment where everyone lives in anarchistish communes and there is total freedom of movement between them backed up by a universal honour code of hospitality.</p>
<p>So there you go.</p>
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		<title>By: the brooke (a tiny ocean).</title>
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		<dc:creator>the brooke (a tiny ocean).</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if this'll fit into the scheme of what you're doing, but it seems like something you'd be interested in:

&lt;blockquote&gt;What happens if you let a thousand people manifest their dreams about society right in the middle of a modern metropolis? You get CHRISTIANIA, the western world's longest existing free society, outside normal law and order. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8887317701829510625
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if this&#8217;ll fit into the scheme of what you&#8217;re doing, but it seems like something you&#8217;d be interested in:</p>
<blockquote><p>What happens if you let a thousand people manifest their dreams about society right in the middle of a modern metropolis? You get CHRISTIANIA, the western world&#8217;s longest existing free society, outside normal law and order. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8887317701829510625" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8887317701829510625'>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8887317701829510625</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania</a></p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/04/14/human-search-requests-circus-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-104607</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks and got your email. Am downloading file as we speak. Tried to write back but it bounced for some reason. Oh well. Thanks again and look forward to listening to it. 

See: this is exactly the kind of targeted specific information retrieval that a computer is not yet able to replicate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks and got your email. Am downloading file as we speak. Tried to write back but it bounced for some reason. Oh well. Thanks again and look forward to listening to it. </p>
<p>See: this is exactly the kind of targeted specific information retrieval that a computer is not yet able to replicate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/04/14/human-search-requests-circus-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-104604</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, email me through my contact form at the main directory of this site. I'd like to hear what he has to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, email me through my contact form at the main directory of this site. I&#8217;d like to hear what he has to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/04/14/human-search-requests-circus-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-104598</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to the circus archetypes (and with a little bit of synchronicity thrown in as well) I am currently listening to some lectures/Q&#38;A sessions Terrence McKenna did in Boulder a while back (my MP3s are called In Search Of The Original Tree of Knowledge).   

There are 8 sections, each about an hour long, I think, and I was just out at lunch listening to section 3 where (about midway through) he compares the overall experience of the DMT trip to what he called "the circus archetype".  He goes on to discuss (albeit only for a few minutes) different symbolic aspects of the circus: The 3 center rings (ie: Dante's Paradiso), the lady on the flying trapeze, the clowns, the ring master, how outside the main attraction are the weird and unusual, the side-show freaks and the carnival games.  After lunch I came back to work and checked your site, saw this post...

I had thought it weird to describe the circus an archetype, as I had always thought of archetypes in the more traditional Jungian sense of "The Shadow" "The Anima/Animus" etc etc. but hey, why not make up more?  Anyway, due to the synchronicity, I thought it worth mentioning.  

I can get the MP3s to you if you'd like, just let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to the circus archetypes (and with a little bit of synchronicity thrown in as well) I am currently listening to some lectures/Q&amp;A sessions Terrence McKenna did in Boulder a while back (my MP3s are called In Search Of The Original Tree of Knowledge).   </p>
<p>There are 8 sections, each about an hour long, I think, and I was just out at lunch listening to section 3 where (about midway through) he compares the overall experience of the DMT trip to what he called &#8220;the circus archetype&#8221;.  He goes on to discuss (albeit only for a few minutes) different symbolic aspects of the circus: The 3 center rings (ie: Dante&#8217;s Paradiso), the lady on the flying trapeze, the clowns, the ring master, how outside the main attraction are the weird and unusual, the side-show freaks and the carnival games.  After lunch I came back to work and checked your site, saw this post&#8230;</p>
<p>I had thought it weird to describe the circus an archetype, as I had always thought of archetypes in the more traditional Jungian sense of &#8220;The Shadow&#8221; &#8220;The Anima/Animus&#8221; etc etc. but hey, why not make up more?  Anyway, due to the synchronicity, I thought it worth mentioning.  </p>
<p>I can get the MP3s to you if you&#8217;d like, just let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent! This totally helps. Another resource that springs to mind is the Biblical story of Lot, I think when the angels come to his house and the angry mob appears outside to "rape them" - according to Jack Chick. Lot offers his daughters to the mob instead, because the sanctity of hospitality is so great... Examples like this along with historical info about particular customs would also be wonderful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent! This totally helps. Another resource that springs to mind is the Biblical story of Lot, I think when the angels come to his house and the angry mob appears outside to &#8220;rape them&#8221; - according to Jack Chick. Lot offers his daughters to the mob instead, because the sanctity of hospitality is so great&#8230; Examples like this along with historical info about particular customs would also be wonderful!</p>
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		<title>By: shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to hospitality, if you haven't read it before, you may want to check out SIR GAWAIN AND THE GREEN KNIGHT: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawain_and_the_Green_Knight
http://alliteration.net/Pearl.htm

Also, if you haven't read any of Chaucer's CANTERBURY TALES, you should. Many of them deal with stories of hospitality and breaches of hospitality (usually involving cuckolding the host's wife).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Canterbury_Tales

A fine example is the Miller's tale: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miller%27s_Prologue_and_Tale

hope this helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to hospitality, if you haven&#8217;t read it before, you may want to check out SIR GAWAIN AND THE GREEN KNIGHT:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawain_and_the_Green_Knight" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawain_and_the_Green_Knight'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawain_and_the_Green_Knight</a><br />
<a href="http://alliteration.net/Pearl.htm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://alliteration.net/Pearl.htm'>http://alliteration.net/Pearl.htm</a></p>
<p>Also, if you haven&#8217;t read any of Chaucer&#8217;s CANTERBURY TALES, you should. Many of them deal with stories of hospitality and breaches of hospitality (usually involving cuckolding the host&#8217;s wife).<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Canterbury_Tales" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Canterbury_Tales'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Canterbury_Tales</a></p>
<p>A fine example is the Miller&#8217;s tale: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miller%27s_Prologue_and_Tale" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miller%27s_Prologue_and_Tale'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miller%27s_Prologue_and_Tale</a></p>
<p>hope this helps!</p>
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