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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/upcoming-carnival-culture-article-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-112923</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;begged God to give them a king.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This connects &lt;a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/whither-the-amero/#comment-112903" rel="nofollow"&gt;to this&lt;/a&gt; - and this, &lt;a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/deus-ex-machina-2/" rel="nofollow"&gt;for that matter&lt;/a&gt; - at least thematically. 

Maybe we'll end up with &lt;a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/king-conan-coming/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Schwarzenegger as president&lt;/a&gt; next week after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>begged God to give them a king.</p></blockquote>
<p>This connects <a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/whither-the-amero/#comment-112903" rel="nofollow">to this</a> - and this, <a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/deus-ex-machina-2/" rel="nofollow">for that matter</a> - at least thematically. </p>
<p>Maybe we&#8217;ll end up with <a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2005/06/21/king-conan-coming/" rel="nofollow">Schwarzenegger as president</a> next week after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/upcoming-carnival-culture-article-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-112919</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a lot of Bible horror stories that end "in those days, Israel had no king". The people got fed up and seeing the relative stability of their neighbors begged God to give them a king. God kept telling them that it was a bad idea but they insisted. God basically said that in one generation the king would own the best land, best women, best men and best animals and it came true. 

One of the worst things King David did was to take a census. He slaughtered and maimed in the worst ways but when he subjected his people to bureaucracy God got mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of Bible horror stories that end &#8220;in those days, Israel had no king&#8221;. The people got fed up and seeing the relative stability of their neighbors begged God to give them a king. God kept telling them that it was a bad idea but they insisted. God basically said that in one generation the king would own the best land, best women, best men and best animals and it came true. </p>
<p>One of the worst things King David did was to take a census. He slaughtered and maimed in the worst ways but when he subjected his people to bureaucracy God got mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/upcoming-carnival-culture-article-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-112916</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure exactly, but thats a good one and definitely a bookend to Lot's tale. I take the ending of it to be something like, the concubine being cut into 12 pieces and sent out is a reference to/warning to the 12 tribes of Israel. Since the tale starts with "In those days, Israel had no king", I take the connection to be potentially something about the maidenhood of Israel, the sovereign/virginity of land (like Guinevere to the Celts) being lost and "raped" by men in those days - though I don't know enough about the context of the rest of what Judges is all about. That's my quick armchair analysis though. 

If anyone can find good info about Bedouin hospitality traditions and how those fed into Islam, I'm into that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure exactly, but thats a good one and definitely a bookend to Lot&#8217;s tale. I take the ending of it to be something like, the concubine being cut into 12 pieces and sent out is a reference to/warning to the 12 tribes of Israel. Since the tale starts with &#8220;In those days, Israel had no king&#8221;, I take the connection to be potentially something about the maidenhood of Israel, the sovereign/virginity of land (like Guinevere to the Celts) being lost and &#8220;raped&#8221; by men in those days - though I don&#8217;t know enough about the context of the rest of what Judges is all about. That&#8217;s my quick armchair analysis though. </p>
<p>If anyone can find good info about Bedouin hospitality traditions and how those fed into Islam, I&#8217;m into that.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm fascinated by this Bible story and its relationship to Lot's story. I still don't get it! I know they're bookends to each other but I can't crack the code. 

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=7&#38;chapter=19&#38;version=9&#38;context=chapter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fascinated by this Bible story and its relationship to Lot&#8217;s story. I still don&#8217;t get it! I know they&#8217;re bookends to each other but I can&#8217;t crack the code. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=7&amp;chapter=19&amp;version=9&amp;context=chapter" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=7&amp;chapter=19&amp;version=9&amp;context=chapter'>http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?b...=19&amp;version=9&amp;context=chapter</a></p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/upcoming-carnival-culture-article-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-112898</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_nightingale
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_cross
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_(virtue)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_nightingale" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_nightingale'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_nightingale</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_cross" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_cross'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_cross</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_</a>(virtue)</p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/upcoming-carnival-culture-article-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-112896</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_hospitaller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitality_Club
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servas_Open_Doors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couchsurfing
http://www.couchsurfing.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_hospitaller" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_hospitaller'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_hospitaller</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitality_Club" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitality_Club'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitality_Club</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servas_Open_Doors" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servas_Open_Doors'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servas_Open_Doors</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couchsurfing" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couchsurfing'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Couchsurfing</a><br />
<a href="http://www.couchsurfing.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.couchsurfing.com/'>http://www.couchsurfing.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacation" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacation'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacation</a></p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/upcoming-carnival-culture-article-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-112894</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of this is getting rather political. I might push these into a future installment about territoriality and sovereignty maybe, a people's connection to the land and human value invested in it. But the subjects intersect on some level, so I'm tacking them on here for future reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora

&lt;blockquote&gt;The term Diaspora (in Greek, Î´Î¹Î±ÏƒÏ€Î¿ÏÎ¬ â€“ "a scattering or sowing of seeds") refers any population sharing common ethnic identity who were either forced to leave or voluntarily left their settled territory, and became residents in areas often far removed from the former.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee

&lt;blockquote&gt;Apart from physical wounds or starvation, a large percentage of refugees develop symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) or depression. These long-term mental problems can severely impede the functionality of the person in everyday situations; it makes matters even worse for displaced persons who are confronted with a new environment and challenging situations. They are also at high risk for suicide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples

Hospitality, in some sense, is a very political act: an exchange of value with someone either inside or outside your community. The fact that many ancient cultures have very strict hospitality codes is extremely interesting because it takes such a firm hand to such a universal political problem between people. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of this is getting rather political. I might push these into a future installment about territoriality and sovereignty maybe, a people&#8217;s connection to the land and human value invested in it. But the subjects intersect on some level, so I&#8217;m tacking them on here for future reference:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The term Diaspora (in Greek, Î´Î¹Î±ÏƒÏ€Î¿ÏÎ¬ â€“ &#8220;a scattering or sowing of seeds&#8221;) refers any population sharing common ethnic identity who were either forced to leave or voluntarily left their settled territory, and became residents in areas often far removed from the former.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Apart from physical wounds or starvation, a large percentage of refugees develop symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) or depression. These long-term mental problems can severely impede the functionality of the person in everyday situations; it makes matters even worse for displaced persons who are confronted with a new environment and challenging situations. They are also at high risk for suicide.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples</a></p>
<p>Hospitality, in some sense, is a very political act: an exchange of value with someone either inside or outside your community. The fact that many ancient cultures have very strict hospitality codes is extremely interesting because it takes such a firm hand to such a universal political problem between people.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/upcoming-carnival-culture-article-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-112892</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dante

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile

&lt;blockquote&gt;    ". . . You will leave everything you love most:
    this is the arrow that the bow of exile
    shoots first. You will know how salty
    another's bread tastes and how hard it
    is to ascend and descend
    another's stairs . . ." &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_in_exile</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dante</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile</a></p>
<blockquote><p>    &#8220;. . . You will leave everything you love most:<br />
    this is the arrow that the bow of exile<br />
    shoots first. You will know how salty<br />
    another&#8217;s bread tastes and how hard it<br />
    is to ascend and descend<br />
    another&#8217;s stairs . . .&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_in_exile" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_in_exile'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_in_exile</a></p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/upcoming-carnival-culture-article-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-112890</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And this strikes me as ultimately being the real root of this subject applied to modern times:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism

(Which buts up against both regionalism and terrorism, as well as international finance and business... other subjects entirely)

Touching at a right angle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_tourism (ecotourism)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Ecotourism, also known as ecological tourism, is a form of tourism that appeals to ecologically and socially conscious individuals. Generally speaking, ecotourism focuses on volunteering, personal growth, and learning new ways to live on the planet. It typically involves travel to destinations where flora, fauna, and cultural heritage are the primary attractions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrim
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage

&lt;blockquote&gt;Effects on trade

Pilgrims contributed an important element to long-distance trade before the modern era, and brought prosperity to successful pilgrimage sites, an economic phenomenon unequalled until the tourist trade of the 20th century. Encouraging pilgrims was a motivation for assembling (and sometimes fabricating) relics and for writing hagiographies of local saints, filled with inspiring accounts of miracle cures. Lourdes and other modern pilgrimage sites keep this spirit alive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Hajj (Arabic: Ø­Ø¬â€Ž) is a pilgrimage to Mecca (Makkah). It is the largest annual pilgrimage in the world.[1] It is the fifth pillar of Islam, an obligation that must be carried out at least once in their lifetime by every able-bodied Muslim who can afford to do so. It is a demonstration of the solidarity of the Muslim people, and their submission to Allah.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_pilgrimage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_hospitality</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this strikes me as ultimately being the real root of this subject applied to modern times:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism</a></p>
<p>(Which buts up against both regionalism and terrorism, as well as international finance and business&#8230; other subjects entirely)</p>
<p>Touching at a right angle:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_tourism" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_tourism'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_tourism</a> (ecotourism)</p>
<blockquote><p>Ecotourism, also known as ecological tourism, is a form of tourism that appeals to ecologically and socially conscious individuals. Generally speaking, ecotourism focuses on volunteering, personal growth, and learning new ways to live on the planet. It typically involves travel to destinations where flora, fauna, and cultural heritage are the primary attractions.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrim" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrim'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrim</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Effects on trade</p>
<p>Pilgrims contributed an important element to long-distance trade before the modern era, and brought prosperity to successful pilgrimage sites, an economic phenomenon unequalled until the tourist trade of the 20th century. Encouraging pilgrims was a motivation for assembling (and sometimes fabricating) relics and for writing hagiographies of local saints, filled with inspiring accounts of miracle cures. Lourdes and other modern pilgrimage sites keep this spirit alive.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The Hajj (Arabic: Ø­Ø¬â€Ž) is a pilgrimage to Mecca (Makkah). It is the largest annual pilgrimage in the world.[1] It is the fifth pillar of Islam, an obligation that must be carried out at least once in their lifetime by every able-bodied Muslim who can afford to do so. It is a demonstration of the solidarity of the Muslim people, and their submission to Allah.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_pilgrimage" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_pilgrimage'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_pilgrimage</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_hospitality" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_hospitality'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_hospitality</a></p>
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		<title>By: Big Elk</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/10/27/upcoming-carnival-culture-article-open-call/comment-page-1/#comment-112889</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Elk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some relevant items to hang onto for later:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenia_(Greek)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitality_ethics

And this one is a little obtuse but worthwhile:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

&lt;blockquote&gt;No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some relevant items to hang onto for later:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenia_" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenia_'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenia_</a>(Greek)<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitality_ethics" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitality_ethics'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitality_ethics</a></p>
<p>And this one is a little obtuse but worthwhile:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Ame...ent_to_the_United_States_Constitution</a></p>
<blockquote><p>No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.</p></blockquote>
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