Comments on: It’s not that bad, it’s worse

By: Julia

Julia — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:25:00 +0000

The basic Libertarian point of view is just like the true believing Communist point of view. The real thing was never tried therefore it never failed.

Libertarians believe that companies and quasi-governmental agencies took the risks they took because they knew the government would bail them out. They controlled the so called deregulation and ensured there would be no penalties for failure.

The ownership of one of the means of production is socialism/communism so bret is right, were already there. Nothing gets produced without the money going in first. But, if the banks/currency collapses the existence of the nation is in danger. I don’t think it’s so much the jobs etc., I think the problem becomes civilization itself.

By: Big Elk

Big Elk — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:25:48 +0000

I don’t think we’ve had radical unbridled capitalism in effect since the early 1900’s or late 1800’s at best. But I see your point. My point isn’t really about what brought us here, but the observeable fact that institutions, at a certain point become like a runaway train: no real way to stop the actions they take, because the decision-making is so codified.

You really see the US going socialist? What’s your short/long-term view of the survival of America as an entity at all?

By: Julia

Julia — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:20:31 +0000

The real corrpution in Chicago went underground years ago. People still go to jail for corruption in embarrasing numbers but it’s not like ti used to be. You can’t show up with an envelope full of money and expect anything. If you look at how Tony Rezko hoped to develop Barack Obama you’ll see. He sold Obama his home at a loss to himself. I think Obama figured it out and stopped doing that kind of thing.

Let’s say I own a trucking company. I know someone who can give me a city contract. I don’t give him money, I give his candidate donations, his cousin a job and I rehab his house for free. Mayor Daley was sort of making it clear that the city was really closing the taps. A few weeks before this statement there was a “lazy city worker” series on a local news show. This sort of thing is usually beneath Daley but this time he blew his stack. It was code. In other words; “your brother isn’t going to save your lazy butt this time, get to work”.

Mayor Daley wants his legacy to be the successful celebration of the Olympics in Chicago in 2016. That’s why he encouraged celebrants to gather in Grant Park when Obama won the election even though his security people had discouraged people without tickets from showing up. He knew the world would be watching and he wanted to show we could do it right.

A few years ago when we were making our first pitch to the committee that chooses the venue he had to deal with a video of a cop beating a female bartender senseless. The chief of police finally lost his job and was replaced with some goof from the FBI. That’s part of why our murder rate shot up this year.

Mayor Daley went to Beijing this year and saw how far behind Chicago was. The expression on his face was classic. He has no poker face. If we get the Olympics he’ll dig up graves and steal the gold out of the mouths of the corpses to pay for it all.

According to Chicago’s Very Own conspiracy theorist Sherman Skolnick (R.I.P., kiss, kiss.) the Daley family gets it’s cut from a company, Glenrock, that controls the sale in the Midwest of some sort of solvent used in the manufacture of concrete.

The Daley family is in more rarefied circles now, they don’t deal in cash. One of the brothers, Bill Daley, was Clinton’s Sec. of Commerce, might be in Obama’s cabinet and is the Chairman of Chase Bank, Midwest.

If he’s ever caught stealing it’ll be something to big to be imagined, it’ll be for the city and Chicago will love him for it. He’s like our Patriarch now and he’ll be our Patron Saint when he dies.

By: Bret

Bret — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:52:59 +0000

Actually, it was radical unbridaled capitalism that got us here. So… I don’t think you are right on this one. Financial are going to be welcomed to the new socialistic regime within the year. Welcome to everyone working for the Gov’t in one way or another… good bye - America.

By: Big Elk

Big Elk — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:11:17 +0000

I don’t know much about Daley, but isn’t he fabulously corrupt? Maybe that’s not true, but it’s funny to me how in times like these overtly corrupt people put themselves into quasi-trustworthy situations. Like look at Berlusconi, giving all these dire predictions and warnings. No one should trust anything that guy says, and yet he’s been sounding more plausible lately…

By: Julia

Julia — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:32:51 +0000

I’m glad you brought this up. The situation were in really hasn’t dawned on us here in Chicago yet. It’s news but neighborhoods haven’t changed yet. We don’t listen to him when he talks, we sort of treat him like a monument.

By: Big Elk

Big Elk — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:31:54 +0000

Good old Mayor Daley

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