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	<title>Comments on: Animal Imitations [Free Urban Shamanism Seminar]</title>
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		<title>By: Co Nowego? - [tmbchr]â„¢</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/14/animal-imitations/comment-page-1/#comment-125295</link>
		<dc:creator>Co Nowego? - [tmbchr]â„¢</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Today, during my invocations, prayers and rituals, I managed to raise two energies not heretofore encountered. One was some kids playing around on the CB frequency I had blazing in the background. A child singing it sounded like, song with garbled words perhaps not unlike mine, interlingual lexemes, glossolalia. Spontaneously speaking in other languages. Number two is this letter with the subject line &#8220;Co Nowego?&#8221; and a link to a Thelema website. I think this is Polish? Thelemiczny Sylwester 2009 e.v. w GdaÅ„sku [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Today, during my invocations, prayers and rituals, I managed to raise two energies not heretofore encountered. One was some kids playing around on the CB frequency I had blazing in the background. A child singing it sounded like, song with garbled words perhaps not unlike mine, interlingual lexemes, glossolalia. Spontaneously speaking in other languages. Number two is this letter with the subject line &#8220;Co Nowego?&#8221; and a link to a Thelema website. I think this is Polish? Thelemiczny Sylwester 2009 e.v. w GdaÅ„sku [...]</p>
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		<title>By: USR01</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/14/animal-imitations/comment-page-1/#comment-124601</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reading of intent is vital to effective communication between parties</description>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, 
Crows are really smart. Like really smart. Many Birds are way smarter than people thought. I mean, it sounds hard to believe but parrots and stuff may be as smart as apes with language. 

I just remembered something when you mentioned that about the singing. I once whistled "pop goes the weasel" to a woodchuck over and over again. and after a while he would squeek right after I got to the "pop" part. He would get all excited. 

I did that after I read a story about this mountain man type dude that could call woodchucks to him with whistles. 

I actually have that book. That makes sense about the Moose. People do that with grizzlies too. What it is is that animals are energy readers. Some people are to, children all are, but lots of people discount it. 

But anyway the animal reads your emotional state an any hostile intentions associated with it. Like how dogs do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah,<br />
Crows are really smart. Like really smart. Many Birds are way smarter than people thought. I mean, it sounds hard to believe but parrots and stuff may be as smart as apes with language. </p>
<p>I just remembered something when you mentioned that about the singing. I once whistled &#8220;pop goes the weasel&#8221; to a woodchuck over and over again. and after a while he would squeek right after I got to the &#8220;pop&#8221; part. He would get all excited. </p>
<p>I did that after I read a story about this mountain man type dude that could call woodchucks to him with whistles. </p>
<p>I actually have that book. That makes sense about the Moose. People do that with grizzlies too. What it is is that animals are energy readers. Some people are to, children all are, but lots of people discount it. </p>
<p>But anyway the animal reads your emotional state an any hostile intentions associated with it. Like how dogs do.</p>
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		<title>By: USR01</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/14/animal-imitations/comment-page-1/#comment-124594</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once had a crow brush its wings against the top of my head in a fly by attack to get me to drop my slice of pizza</description>
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		<title>By: USR01</title>
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		<dc:creator>USR01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But anyway, I like to walk through the woods, encounter animals and then be really still and receptive and see if they offer me any info.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I've also heard that singing to them - especially in wordless tunes is very effective. It's a universal way of sharing beauty and dwelling in the moment

Gotta check out Spell of the Sensuous if you ever run into it. The author of that gave a lecture I went to, and part of it he talked about encountering a moose head on in a path suddenly, and he just started singing softly and everything went fine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But anyway, I like to walk through the woods, encounter animals and then be really still and receptive and see if they offer me any info.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve also heard that singing to them - especially in wordless tunes is very effective. It&#8217;s a universal way of sharing beauty and dwelling in the moment</p>
<p>Gotta check out Spell of the Sensuous if you ever run into it. The author of that gave a lecture I went to, and part of it he talked about encountering a moose head on in a path suddenly, and he just started singing softly and everything went fine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some communication is blatantly obvious, like "Hey stay away from my nest or I will peck you on the head!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some communication is blatantly obvious, like &#8220;Hey stay away from my nest or I will peck you on the head!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what would that be? There is the Findhorn Garden, "animal communicator" type idea stream. 

But I guess that wouldn't be something "everyone would get." I've dabbled with that a bit myself. Its hard to tell if you are recieving communication from the animal, that you are then trnaslating into English, or if you are just kidding yourself. 

But if you have a lot of empathy with the animal, you can pick up emotional states, and if you are used to imitating various animals and pretending to be them, you can relate more to their perspective. So if these stuff backs up the message you are getting it might be legit. 

But anyway, I like to walk through the woods, encounter animals and then be really still and receptive and see if they offer me any info. 

Once, A herd of fallow deer in a farm first ran from me and then walked up to me at the fence and told me about themselves.  They said basically that their bodies are big plant digesting machines on swift running legs. 

It seems like it must be true. They were really happy about it. I also noticed that if you see an animal that doesn't see you, like if you see it from a window, it won't tell you anything about itself. 

You have to encounter it to communicate with it. I think you send out an emotional "query" Like through your emotional state you say "Hi. I am non threatening and curious about you" 

Then they say something like "I am a wood chuck and I like to dig."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what would that be? There is the Findhorn Garden, &#8220;animal communicator&#8221; type idea stream. </p>
<p>But I guess that wouldn&#8217;t be something &#8220;everyone would get.&#8221; I&#8217;ve dabbled with that a bit myself. Its hard to tell if you are recieving communication from the animal, that you are then trnaslating into English, or if you are just kidding yourself. </p>
<p>But if you have a lot of empathy with the animal, you can pick up emotional states, and if you are used to imitating various animals and pretending to be them, you can relate more to their perspective. So if these stuff backs up the message you are getting it might be legit. </p>
<p>But anyway, I like to walk through the woods, encounter animals and then be really still and receptive and see if they offer me any info. </p>
<p>Once, A herd of fallow deer in a farm first ran from me and then walked up to me at the fence and told me about themselves.  They said basically that their bodies are big plant digesting machines on swift running legs. </p>
<p>It seems like it must be true. They were really happy about it. I also noticed that if you see an animal that doesn&#8217;t see you, like if you see it from a window, it won&#8217;t tell you anything about itself. </p>
<p>You have to encounter it to communicate with it. I think you send out an emotional &#8220;query&#8221; Like through your emotional state you say &#8220;Hi. I am non threatening and curious about you&#8221; </p>
<p>Then they say something like &#8220;I am a wood chuck and I like to dig.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: USR01</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if we had a clear way for humans and animals to communicate with one another that everybody more or less "got" and was beautiful and productive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if we had a clear way for humans and animals to communicate with one another that everybody more or less &#8220;got&#8221; and was beautiful and productive?</p>
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		<title>By: USR01</title>
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		<dc:creator>USR01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Memes seo animism liberated information streams</description>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been thinking about intra species communication for a long time, but probably slower than you think. 

But I keep coming back to it. I imitated a dog for most of my Early childhood. I got to be able to run pretty fast on all fours. 

I talked to wolves at the zoo, in Jr High. I layed down on the ground in a submissive posture by the fence and they all walked up to me. 

One of the many ideas I have had lately is to create a game similar to "Spore" that contains maps of the body plans of different animals. 
Unlike spore though, it would start with a basic embryo that you could cause to grow into whatever body plan you want using commands similar to the commands of the actual genes involved. 

I learned in biology most animal behavior can be broken down into four "Fs"

Fighting 
Fleeing
Feeding
Fornicating

Is that really true? 

One a different track, Parisitology is a good path to look into for insights on this. Through parasitology you can learn how really simple primitive seeming organisms can commandeer control of really complex organisms. Like a fungus taking over the mind of an ant. 

That remoinds me of Pinchbeck's conversation he had with a mushroom while tripping on the very mushroom he was talking to. The mushroom saoid the little spores travel throughout the galaxy teaching people stuff. You learn by eating them and letting them speak to your mind. 

Parasites don't need big brais they just need to be able to use others brains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been thinking about intra species communication for a long time, but probably slower than you think. </p>
<p>But I keep coming back to it. I imitated a dog for most of my Early childhood. I got to be able to run pretty fast on all fours. </p>
<p>I talked to wolves at the zoo, in Jr High. I layed down on the ground in a submissive posture by the fence and they all walked up to me. </p>
<p>One of the many ideas I have had lately is to create a game similar to &#8220;Spore&#8221; that contains maps of the body plans of different animals.<br />
Unlike spore though, it would start with a basic embryo that you could cause to grow into whatever body plan you want using commands similar to the commands of the actual genes involved. </p>
<p>I learned in biology most animal behavior can be broken down into four &#8220;Fs&#8221;</p>
<p>Fighting<br />
Fleeing<br />
Feeding<br />
Fornicating</p>
<p>Is that really true? </p>
<p>One a different track, Parisitology is a good path to look into for insights on this. Through parasitology you can learn how really simple primitive seeming organisms can commandeer control of really complex organisms. Like a fungus taking over the mind of an ant. </p>
<p>That remoinds me of Pinchbeck&#8217;s conversation he had with a mushroom while tripping on the very mushroom he was talking to. The mushroom saoid the little spores travel throughout the galaxy teaching people stuff. You learn by eating them and letting them speak to your mind. </p>
<p>Parasites don&#8217;t need big brais they just need to be able to use others brains.</p>
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