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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, ok, I'll tell about the two Cloud Wars in Chicago. There have been others but I can't prove that's what they were. (I can't prove this either.) Sorry this will be long, I want to give you enough info to judge for yourself. 

Chicago is roughly rectangular in shape and it's common for one half of the city to have different weather from the other. A while back, probably about ten years ago, I saw noon news coverage of the aftermath of a storm on the North side. 

Sticks from trees were thrown around and all parked cars and sidewalks were covered with them. My first thought was 'I thought that was a better neighborhood, they really don't clean up over there though'. 

My second thought was that it was kind of late and given what the reporter said about the time the storm hit those people should've left for work before the storm hit or should've left by the time the camera crew got there. 

Then I realized that the camera crew was sneaking the picture. They were sneaking the picture of the man standing dazed and confused on his porch and they were sneaking only a very small portion of the grassy area they were filming near. There was some secret but you were supposed to guess and I had no clue. The man on his porch had even less of a clue than I did and he lived there. The expression on his face was what helped me come to my strange conclusions. (I don't usually need help for that.)

A few years later I spent the night of July 4th in Indiana. Fireworks are legal there and they nearly set the town of Whiting on fire. When I got back to Chicago around 11:00pm I noticed that Chicagoans were using more than a normal amount of (illegal) fireworks. (The police noticed because they had more border checks the next year.)

I add the part about fireworks because I've read that UFO's have always had some connection to cannon firing and war zones. (I wonder if thats a chicken/egg question.) Also, I think something about Orgone and cloud seeding fits in as well but I've never read up on either topic.

I had three cats and since I worked nights my Mom fed the cats in the morning. Sometime around 8:15am--9:00am my cats woke me up. They all had VERY worried looks on their faces. I thought they were hungry and I woke up my Mom and told her to feed them. She went back to sleep. I went back to bed and realized that my cats was bahaving abnormally. As soon as I had that thought something waved that thought away immediately. 

I lived on the first floor and had two bookcases clamped together against each window for security but I could see out of the tops of the windows. I laid in bed and saw the small part of the sky I could see and noticed that what was in my field of vision was blinking like a metronome and was exactly the color of the gemstone Aquamarine. The sky was a sheet of color and the what caught my attention was the shadow of my ceiling fan.

I knew this was unusual and thought it must be the flags my landlord hung out front. That thought comforted me and something tried to get me to believe 'ahh, that's it, nothing to see here'. I stared some more but I knew this was all so weird. Suddenly I put everything together and when I DECIDED to get up and investigate what was bothering my cats and what the blinking was I went BAM, right to sleep. Whatever it was was using a light touch but brought out the sleep ray when it was needed. 

(Jeez, this is long.) I woke up and didn't think too much about it until I got outside. I saw the exact same pattern or storm damage as I had in the above news story. At first I thought people had shot fireworks into the trees and I was really mad. I knew there had been a storm but it wasn't wet or muddy, the ground was just a little damp.

When I got to where there were more trees I knew this was not a natural storm. None of the weak trees had been damaged. Several trees that seemed to be the strongest ones had been destroyed and/or partially uprooted and weak trees right next to them were untouched. Most of then still had their leaves on. This same pattern was repeated in grassy areas and on sidewalks. 

When I got to work I asked my coworkers if they had SEEN the storm? Everybody who lived near me had overslept and gotten to work late. One woman said that when she drove to work everyone on 47th Street was standing outside in a daze. Her husband had a similar experience as mine. He tried to wake up but when he paid attention to the noise the rain was making he fell back to sleep. My other coworker knew where I was headed with this and wouldn't tell me what her experiences were.  

I made sure to watch the news when I got home. The storm had hit so badly at "Ground Zero" that the news made it to the weekday news. But, they never showed "Ground Zero". They showed people who were still dazed two days later and they showed the front of the four homes that were made uninhabitable. 

They did not show the at least 50 yr. old tree that was in front of the fire station on a main street (Ashland Ave.) that had been uprooted or the tree next to it that still had all of it's leaves on even though it could not have been over five yrs. old. Or, the part of Western Blvd. (in front of a water pumping station w/24 hr. police presence) that had the exact same type of damage. 

A few years later a real storm came along and damaged the trees in a completely natural pattern. This was the clincher for me. The leaves were gone from ALL of the trees. The ones that had been hit by trucks finally snapped, the ones that grew between a building and a parking lot shattered at their base like they should've years ago. 

The main thing that bothers me is that I wonder what these people (?) have against old, healthy trees. Can they fight them? Now with your research into communication I wonder if the trees can communicate about this, store the info and use it somehow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, ok, I&#8217;ll tell about the two Cloud Wars in Chicago. There have been others but I can&#8217;t prove that&#8217;s what they were. (I can&#8217;t prove this either.) Sorry this will be long, I want to give you enough info to judge for yourself. </p>
<p>Chicago is roughly rectangular in shape and it&#8217;s common for one half of the city to have different weather from the other. A while back, probably about ten years ago, I saw noon news coverage of the aftermath of a storm on the North side. </p>
<p>Sticks from trees were thrown around and all parked cars and sidewalks were covered with them. My first thought was &#8216;I thought that was a better neighborhood, they really don&#8217;t clean up over there though&#8217;. </p>
<p>My second thought was that it was kind of late and given what the reporter said about the time the storm hit those people should&#8217;ve left for work before the storm hit or should&#8217;ve left by the time the camera crew got there. </p>
<p>Then I realized that the camera crew was sneaking the picture. They were sneaking the picture of the man standing dazed and confused on his porch and they were sneaking only a very small portion of the grassy area they were filming near. There was some secret but you were supposed to guess and I had no clue. The man on his porch had even less of a clue than I did and he lived there. The expression on his face was what helped me come to my strange conclusions. (I don&#8217;t usually need help for that.)</p>
<p>A few years later I spent the night of July 4th in Indiana. Fireworks are legal there and they nearly set the town of Whiting on fire. When I got back to Chicago around 11:00pm I noticed that Chicagoans were using more than a normal amount of (illegal) fireworks. (The police noticed because they had more border checks the next year.)</p>
<p>I add the part about fireworks because I&#8217;ve read that UFO&#8217;s have always had some connection to cannon firing and war zones. (I wonder if thats a chicken/egg question.) Also, I think something about Orgone and cloud seeding fits in as well but I&#8217;ve never read up on either topic.</p>
<p>I had three cats and since I worked nights my Mom fed the cats in the morning. Sometime around 8:15am&#8211;9:00am my cats woke me up. They all had VERY worried looks on their faces. I thought they were hungry and I woke up my Mom and told her to feed them. She went back to sleep. I went back to bed and realized that my cats was bahaving abnormally. As soon as I had that thought something waved that thought away immediately. </p>
<p>I lived on the first floor and had two bookcases clamped together against each window for security but I could see out of the tops of the windows. I laid in bed and saw the small part of the sky I could see and noticed that what was in my field of vision was blinking like a metronome and was exactly the color of the gemstone Aquamarine. The sky was a sheet of color and the what caught my attention was the shadow of my ceiling fan.</p>
<p>I knew this was unusual and thought it must be the flags my landlord hung out front. That thought comforted me and something tried to get me to believe &#8216;ahh, that&#8217;s it, nothing to see here&#8217;. I stared some more but I knew this was all so weird. Suddenly I put everything together and when I DECIDED to get up and investigate what was bothering my cats and what the blinking was I went BAM, right to sleep. Whatever it was was using a light touch but brought out the sleep ray when it was needed. </p>
<p>(Jeez, this is long.) I woke up and didn&#8217;t think too much about it until I got outside. I saw the exact same pattern or storm damage as I had in the above news story. At first I thought people had shot fireworks into the trees and I was really mad. I knew there had been a storm but it wasn&#8217;t wet or muddy, the ground was just a little damp.</p>
<p>When I got to where there were more trees I knew this was not a natural storm. None of the weak trees had been damaged. Several trees that seemed to be the strongest ones had been destroyed and/or partially uprooted and weak trees right next to them were untouched. Most of then still had their leaves on. This same pattern was repeated in grassy areas and on sidewalks. </p>
<p>When I got to work I asked my coworkers if they had SEEN the storm? Everybody who lived near me had overslept and gotten to work late. One woman said that when she drove to work everyone on 47th Street was standing outside in a daze. Her husband had a similar experience as mine. He tried to wake up but when he paid attention to the noise the rain was making he fell back to sleep. My other coworker knew where I was headed with this and wouldn&#8217;t tell me what her experiences were.  </p>
<p>I made sure to watch the news when I got home. The storm had hit so badly at &#8220;Ground Zero&#8221; that the news made it to the weekday news. But, they never showed &#8220;Ground Zero&#8221;. They showed people who were still dazed two days later and they showed the front of the four homes that were made uninhabitable. </p>
<p>They did not show the at least 50 yr. old tree that was in front of the fire station on a main street (Ashland Ave.) that had been uprooted or the tree next to it that still had all of it&#8217;s leaves on even though it could not have been over five yrs. old. Or, the part of Western Blvd. (in front of a water pumping station w/24 hr. police presence) that had the exact same type of damage. </p>
<p>A few years later a real storm came along and damaged the trees in a completely natural pattern. This was the clincher for me. The leaves were gone from ALL of the trees. The ones that had been hit by trucks finally snapped, the ones that grew between a building and a parking lot shattered at their base like they should&#8217;ve years ago. </p>
<p>The main thing that bothers me is that I wonder what these people (?) have against old, healthy trees. Can they fight them? Now with your research into communication I wonder if the trees can communicate about this, store the info and use it somehow.</p>
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		<title>By: Xtal</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/23/auto-annihilation-of-knowledge-syntheticcloud-wisdom/comment-page-1/#comment-126207</link>
		<dc:creator>Xtal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe the internet is the physical incarnation of the holy spirit, that which links manâ€™s spirit to the spirit of the divine. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I totally agree with this.

Y'know, I used to keep a blog pretty regularly.  When I cancelled it, I had a dream that I was sitting in a room with my deceased grandmother.  She told me she was sad I wasn't blogging anymore, as she was using my blog to keep up with what was going on in my life.

I have no doubt that was my real grandmother, and that she really was following my blog from wherever she is now.  It just seems like this electronic information floating around the ether would be much easier for non-physical entities to follow than just about any other kind of communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe the internet is the physical incarnation of the holy spirit, that which links manâ€™s spirit to the spirit of the divine. </p></blockquote>
<p>I totally agree with this.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;know, I used to keep a blog pretty regularly.  When I cancelled it, I had a dream that I was sitting in a room with my deceased grandmother.  She told me she was sad I wasn&#8217;t blogging anymore, as she was using my blog to keep up with what was going on in my life.</p>
<p>I have no doubt that was my real grandmother, and that she really was following my blog from wherever she is now.  It just seems like this electronic information floating around the ether would be much easier for non-physical entities to follow than just about any other kind of communication.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/23/auto-annihilation-of-knowledge-syntheticcloud-wisdom/comment-page-1/#comment-126203</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, me too.

gods (lower case) as nodes within the webs of information.  Which, since all reality is just information, would make God (upper case) the sum total of all the information in the universe.

Maybe the internet is the physical incarnation of the holy spirit, that which links man's spirit to the spirit of the divine.  

See &lt;a href="http://reclusland.tumblr.com/private/62919856/86aMlwW9Gh2cjn7vYMTknUuv" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dante's vision of the divine&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;em&gt;Within the depths of divine light, Dante perceives a geometric image of the Holy Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). He â€œseesâ€ three circles of the same circumference with distinct though unspecified colors. One circle appears as the reflection of the other (Son and Father), and the third circle (Spirit) looks like fire breathed equally by the other two (33.115-45).&lt;/em&gt;

Also, Jesus as &lt;strong&gt;the way&lt;/strong&gt;, the truth, and the light.  Jesus as spirit guide for all of western culture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, me too.</p>
<p>gods (lower case) as nodes within the webs of information.  Which, since all reality is just information, would make God (upper case) the sum total of all the information in the universe.</p>
<p>Maybe the internet is the physical incarnation of the holy spirit, that which links man&#8217;s spirit to the spirit of the divine.  </p>
<p>See <a href="http://reclusland.tumblr.com/private/62919856/86aMlwW9Gh2cjn7vYMTknUuv" rel="nofollow">Dante&#8217;s vision of the divine</a>:<br />
<em>Within the depths of divine light, Dante perceives a geometric image of the Holy Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). He â€œseesâ€ three circles of the same circumference with distinct though unspecified colors. One circle appears as the reflection of the other (Son and Father), and the third circle (Spirit) looks like fire breathed equally by the other two (33.115-45).</em></p>
<p>Also, Jesus as <strong>the way</strong>, the truth, and the light.  Jesus as spirit guide for all of western culture?</p>
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		<title>By: #USR04</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/23/auto-annihilation-of-knowledge-syntheticcloud-wisdom/comment-page-1/#comment-126201</link>
		<dc:creator>#USR04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great links, I'm having tons of fun!



&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps weâ€™re creating gods here? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I was pretty much not joking when I posted this:

+ http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/23/odin-engine-configuration-testing-user-settings/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great links, I&#8217;m having tons of fun!</p>
<blockquote><p>Perhaps weâ€™re creating gods here? </p></blockquote>
<p>I was pretty much not joking when I posted this:</p>
<p>+ <a href="http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/23/odin-engine-configuration-testing-user-settings/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/23/odin-engine-configuration-testing-user-settings/'>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008...-configuration-testing-user-settings/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/23/auto-annihilation-of-knowledge-syntheticcloud-wisdom/comment-page-1/#comment-126197</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we're creating gods here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we&#8217;re creating gods here?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2008/12/23/auto-annihilation-of-knowledge-syntheticcloud-wisdom/comment-page-1/#comment-126196</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just keep a notes page for later reference.  This is quality datastreaming!

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/awakening101/cloud_shaman.html

And @blustr:
http://www.crystalinks.com/lenticular.html

from:
http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html

from:
http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/12/two-tombs-discovered-in-egypt.html

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just keep a notes page for later reference.  This is quality datastreaming!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/awakening101/cloud_shaman.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/awakening101/cloud_shaman.html'>http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/awakening101/cloud_shaman.html</a></p>
<p>And @blustr:<br />
<a href="http://www.crystalinks.com/lenticular.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.crystalinks.com/lenticular.html'>http://www.crystalinks.com/lenticular.html</a></p>
<p>from:<br />
<a href="http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html'>http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html</a></p>
<p>from:<br />
<a href="http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/12/two-tombs-discovered-in-egypt.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/12/two-tombs-discovered-in-egypt.html'>http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/12/two-tombs-discovered-in-egypt.html</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://www.timboucher.com/journal/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: #USR04</title>
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		<dc:creator>#USR04</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+ http://twitter.com/blustr/status/1074786184

Starting to get too many links and reference points to really even keep track of chaining them all together...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+ <a href="http://twitter.com/blustr/status/1074786184" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://twitter.com/blustr/status/1074786184'>http://twitter.com/blustr/status/1074786184</a></p>
<p>Starting to get too many links and reference points to really even keep track of chaining them all together&#8230;</p>
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