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		<title>By: The New Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2009/03/03/his-name-is-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-161549</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is it a good thing for electronic networks to have dominion over consciousness? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nowhere at any point in my many ramblings have I advocated that we ought to let these things have control over us.</description>
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<p>Nowhere at any point in my many ramblings have I advocated that we ought to let these things have control over us.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2009/03/03/his-name-is-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-161327</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am not presenting these reservations as if I am looking at Rudolf Steiner in a doctrinaire way. 

What his message amounts to is that we should be aware enough to be able to resist this Ahrimanic influence in an intelligent way. 

Its a nuanced view he had. He sees not a duality in the world but these three spiritual forces. Lucifer, Christ and Ahriman all playing a part in human evolution, Christ being the blancing force. Its like the fleur de lis, or the concept of the trinity.  He said it was philistinism to say basically  "ooh, that's of the devil! I'm not going to have anything to do with that."

I am not saying that either. But that to me is not the same as gleefully embracing these Ahrimanic influences that are coming to a head now. 

Is it a good thing for electronic networks to have dominion over consciousness? 

I think its fucked up. First of all it not that consciousness needs this artificial scaffolding over it. Its not supporting consciousness so much as trapping it and feeding off it. 

You can scoff all you want. You may not hear to many people quoting Steiner to you like me, 

But not everyone is all enamored of this ubiquitous internet stuff. Young techno saavy hip people too are getting creeped out by it. 

I am not just coming from out of left feild with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am not presenting these reservations as if I am looking at Rudolf Steiner in a doctrinaire way. </p>
<p>What his message amounts to is that we should be aware enough to be able to resist this Ahrimanic influence in an intelligent way. </p>
<p>Its a nuanced view he had. He sees not a duality in the world but these three spiritual forces. Lucifer, Christ and Ahriman all playing a part in human evolution, Christ being the blancing force. Its like the fleur de lis, or the concept of the trinity.  He said it was philistinism to say basically  &#8220;ooh, that&#8217;s of the devil! I&#8217;m not going to have anything to do with that.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not saying that either. But that to me is not the same as gleefully embracing these Ahrimanic influences that are coming to a head now. </p>
<p>Is it a good thing for electronic networks to have dominion over consciousness? </p>
<p>I think its fucked up. First of all it not that consciousness needs this artificial scaffolding over it. Its not supporting consciousness so much as trapping it and feeding off it. </p>
<p>You can scoff all you want. You may not hear to many people quoting Steiner to you like me, </p>
<p>But not everyone is all enamored of this ubiquitous internet stuff. Young techno saavy hip people too are getting creeped out by it. </p>
<p>I am not just coming from out of left feild with this.</p>
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		<title>By: The New Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2009/03/03/his-name-is-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-161316</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 05:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not going to let you riff my chill, homey. I'm not saying these things *should* happen. I'm saying they will happen. Then what? Complain about how it never should have happened? Too late, sucker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not going to let you riff my chill, homey. I&#8217;m not saying these things *should* happen. I&#8217;m saying they will happen. Then what? Complain about how it never should have happened? Too late, sucker!</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2009/03/03/his-name-is-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-161308</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's not even a response, like..dude.

I guess you are too cool to deign to condescend to me and adress my points. 

So that's fine. What you spend all your time on and what you think is the next big thing that will make lots of people rich and be a revolution in computing and transform society and how people percieve reality is not meant to be taken seriously..

uh Ok. My bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not even a response, like..dude.</p>
<p>I guess you are too cool to deign to condescend to me and adress my points. </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s fine. What you spend all your time on and what you think is the next big thing that will make lots of people rich and be a revolution in computing and transform society and how people percieve reality is not meant to be taken seriously..</p>
<p>uh Ok. My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: The New Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2009/03/03/his-name-is-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-161268</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you might be taking this like way too seriously dude</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you might be taking this like way too seriously dude</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2009/03/03/his-name-is-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-161203</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2443</description>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2009/03/03/his-name-is-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-161199</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are going the wrong way with this stuff. 

All the stuff you are talking about lately, ubiquitous computing etc. was predicted by Rudolph Steiner as being the incarnation of Ahriman. 

You say a lot of the same stuff word for word, only he saw it as really ominous and you see it as positive, like computer networks becoming sentient intelligences. 

I remember a post you made a while back called "some shit about fairies because... whatever" 

You being flip about it but you really understood it. 

You really do get shamanism. You don't think its cool, I guess unless its combined with computers and new technology, but anyway..

Here is the concern: Nature spirits and demons are, like you know, at war. Western technology is by and large the realm of demonic forces. So, how do you know you aren't just working to help these demonic forces make inroads into nature? This is serious shit here. Sure you can say I am just a crank, but really the whole materialistic program is demonic. It denies the Spirit. Francis Bacon wanted to put mother nature on a rack and force her secrets out of her. That is almost an exact quote. 

Why is it your goal for the internet to be ubiquitous and dominate everything? Every bit of space, all consciousness? 

You don't need the internet for consciousness. You can do all this stuff through meditation and spiritual practice. Taking walks in the woods. Did Edgar Cayce need the internet? 

Its like this this machine intelligence is gaining dominion over everything through human agency. How do you know that is a good thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are going the wrong way with this stuff. </p>
<p>All the stuff you are talking about lately, ubiquitous computing etc. was predicted by Rudolph Steiner as being the incarnation of Ahriman. </p>
<p>You say a lot of the same stuff word for word, only he saw it as really ominous and you see it as positive, like computer networks becoming sentient intelligences. </p>
<p>I remember a post you made a while back called &#8220;some shit about fairies because&#8230; whatever&#8221; </p>
<p>You being flip about it but you really understood it. </p>
<p>You really do get shamanism. You don&#8217;t think its cool, I guess unless its combined with computers and new technology, but anyway..</p>
<p>Here is the concern: Nature spirits and demons are, like you know, at war. Western technology is by and large the realm of demonic forces. So, how do you know you aren&#8217;t just working to help these demonic forces make inroads into nature? This is serious shit here. Sure you can say I am just a crank, but really the whole materialistic program is demonic. It denies the Spirit. Francis Bacon wanted to put mother nature on a rack and force her secrets out of her. That is almost an exact quote. </p>
<p>Why is it your goal for the internet to be ubiquitous and dominate everything? Every bit of space, all consciousness? </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need the internet for consciousness. You can do all this stuff through meditation and spiritual practice. Taking walks in the woods. Did Edgar Cayce need the internet? </p>
<p>Its like this this machine intelligence is gaining dominion over everything through human agency. How do you know that is a good thing?</p>
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		<title>By: The New Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2009/03/03/his-name-is-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-161113</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They expect us to wait ten years for that shit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They expect us to wait ten years for that shit?</p>
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		<title>By: rmsquid</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2009/03/03/his-name-is-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-161056</link>
		<dc:creator>rmsquid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stubmled across these &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvtxupQmRSA" rel="nofollow"&gt;creepily sterile  microsoft videos&lt;/a&gt; looking at ubiq-computing - chimes in with the idea of the dissapearing machinery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stubmled across these <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvtxupQmRSA" rel="nofollow">creepily sterile  microsoft videos</a> looking at ubiq-computing - chimes in with the idea of the dissapearing machinery</p>
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		<title>By: The New Tim Boucher</title>
		<link>http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2009/03/03/his-name-is-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-160288</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Tim Boucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Many pirate stations already stream on the internet, but with the majority of their listeners either driving a vehicle, or living in parts of the community where a PC and broadband is an unaffordable luxury, they are unlikely to put an end to their illegal broadcasts. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7920067.stm

Which is exactly why people need to start developing mobile web-based radio solutions, to circumvent these problems</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Many pirate stations already stream on the internet, but with the majority of their listeners either driving a vehicle, or living in parts of the community where a PC and broadband is an unaffordable luxury, they are unlikely to put an end to their illegal broadcasts. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7920067.stm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7920067.stm'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7920067.stm</a></p>
<p>Which is exactly why people need to start developing mobile web-based radio solutions, to circumvent these problems</p>
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